Mind Body Detox Podcast

79: Unwinding Stress - Nervous System Regulation for Total Wellbeing Through Neuroscience, Psychology, and Functional Medicine

Season 3 Episode 79

Mind Body Detox Podcast - Unwinding Stress: Nervous System Regulation for Total Wellbeing Through Neuroscience, Psychology, and Functional Medicine

Join us in this episode for a transformative conversation about nervous system regulation and burnout.  Join Kara Lovehart, Mind-Body Psychic Medium and Executive Intuitive Coach, as she explores healing from the inside out with Lucy Oliver, founder of Rē Precision Health.

Episode Highlights:

  • Lucy’s journey from chemistry to holistic health and the creation of Rē Precision Health.
  • Early signs of burnout and solutions.
  • The gut-brain connection's impact on mental clarity.
  • Nervous system co-regulation for stress relief.
  • Actionable burnout busters for immediate well-being.

About Lucy Oliver, MSci:
Lucy Oliver holds a Master’s in Chemistry and has spent 15 years researching the brain and body. Her programs focus on nervous system regulation for optimal health. Lucy's personal transformation from chronic health issues to thriving inspired her mission to guide others to healing through her immersive programs in Mexico and Portugal.

Resources
Rē Precision Health Website
Rē Precision Health Instagram
Rē Precision Health Facebook



Mind Body Detox Podcast Episode Summary - 79: Unwinding Stress: Nervous System Regulation for Total Wellbeing Through Neuroscience, Psychology, and Functional Medicine with Lucy Oliver

Episode Summary: In this enlightening episode of the Mind Body Detox podcast, host Kara Lovehart Mind-Body Psychic Medium & Executive Intuitive Coach explores the topic of burnout with guest Lucy Oliver, founder of Reprecision Health. Together, they dive deep into the critical importance of nervous system regulation for physical and mental health, how burnout has become a household term, and practical strategies for recovery and prevention.

Key Discussion Points:

  • Understanding Burnout: Kara shares her personal experience of running a business, managing social media, raising a child on the autism spectrum, and the intense demands that led to her burnout. The conversation sheds light on how the pressures of modern life, particularly in the post-COVID era, have normalized burnout and created a pressing need for tools and solutions to cope.
  • Nervous System Regulation: Lucy Oliver, a chemist turned health expert, explains the role of the nervous system in maintaining mental and physical well-being. Drawing from her extensive research and personal journey through mental and physical health challenges, she discusses the importance of regulating the nervous system to prevent burnout, manage stress, and improve overall health.
  • Signs of Nervous System Dysregulation: Lucy shares key signs that indicate nervous system dysregulation, including digestive issues, muscle tension, hormonal imbalances, and brain fog. She also explains how long-term exposure to stress can lead to serious physical and emotional consequences, including adrenal fatigue and a shutdown of the parasympathetic nervous system.
  • The Cultural Impact of Burnout: The conversation touches on how societal expectations, particularly in corporate and high-pressure environments, perpetuate burnout. Lucy highlights the need for a shift in workplace culture to foster healthier environments, emphasizing the connection between leadership, team dynamics, and the collective well-being of employees.
  • Practical Tools for Healing: Lucy shares insights from Reprecision Health’s 5, 10, and 21-day programs, which focus on nervous system regulation. She offers practical tips for listeners to begin reprogramming their nervous systems, including mindfulness techniques, somatic work, and strategies to move from a state of constant stress into one of balance and recovery.

About the Guest: Lucy Oliver is the founder of Reprecision Health, a wellness company that offers nervous system regulation programs in Mexico and Portugal. With a background in chemistry and over 15 years of experience in health research, Lucy has developed a unique approach to helping people restore balance and well-being through holistic health practices.

 
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This is the Mind Body Detox
 
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podcast where we discuss
 
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all things integrative
 
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health and wellness,
 
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interviewing folks from all
 
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over the world,
 
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sharing insights and wisdom
 
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for how to live a healthier life in mind,
 
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body, and spirit.
 
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Welcome back, everyone,
 
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to the Mind Body Detox podcast.
 
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I'm your host,
 
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Mind-Body Holistic Medium Kara Lovehart.
 
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And this is a topic that I
 
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think is a little bit maybe
 
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even closer near and dear
 
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to my heart than it probably should be.
 
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So burnout,
 
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we're going to talk about
 
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overcoming burnout.
 
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So for those of you who hear
 
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me chat about on my
 
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channels about the last six
 
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years running a business,
 
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running a business,
 
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having a child on the spectrum,
 
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working and managing four
 
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social media inboxes, a holistic expo,
 
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a holistic clinic, and of course,
 
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all the other things,
 
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and knowing the whole
 
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entire time that it is not
 
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good and it's leading to burnout.
 
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But what other choice do you
 
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have when COVID hits?
 
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This is a topic that has
 
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created circumstances, or sorry,
 
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life has created
 
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circumstances in people's
 
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lives where burnout is
 
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something that is now a household term.
 
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and we are needing tools we
 
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need in solutions not only
 
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understand it to understand
 
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how it affects us in our
 
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journey what stages we
 
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might be in and burnout and
 
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of course what are the
 
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things we can do to not
 
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only prevent but also
 
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recover so I'm very excited
 
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to introduce you today
 
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to Lucy Oliver, our guest.
 
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And Lucy Oliver is the
 
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founder of Reprecision Health.
 
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She has a master's in chemistry,
 
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and she has spent the past
 
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fifteen years researching
 
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the brain and the body.
 
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Now, Reprecision Health runs five, ten,
 
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and twenty-one day programs
 
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focused on the nervous
 
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system and regulation,
 
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which we talk a lot,
 
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but a lot on this show, right?
 
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Nervous system regulation in
 
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Mexico and Portugal.
 
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So she's joining us today from Portugal.
 
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They're getting ready for
 
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another big event.
 
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So I'm really excited to
 
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introduce you to Lucy Oliver.
 
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Hi, Cara.
 
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Thanks so much for having me here.
 
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It's lovely to chat.
 
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So tell us a little bit
 
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about your background and
 
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really what brought you to
 
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start your background in
 
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chemistry and holistic
 
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health and what part of
 
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that journey started Reprecision Health.
 
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Yeah, when I studied chemistry,
 
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I definitely had no
 
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definite direction going
 
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towards nervous system
 
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regulation or health or any
 
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of what I currently do today.
 
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But fortunately, it did come in helpful.
 
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And yeah, I mean,
 
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I think like a lot of
 
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people who fall into the wellness space,
 
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I went through a lot of
 
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health issues myself,
 
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physical and mental health issues.
 
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And after a lot, a lot of research,
 
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going down all sorts of rabbit holes and
 
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really trying to understand
 
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the body and the brain,
 
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all the different systems,
 
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how they interconnect.
 
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I really resonated with the
 
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nervous system and came to
 
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the realization that mine
 
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had been severely
 
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dysregulated for probably most,
 
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if not all of my life.
 
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And it was causing all of
 
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these downstream effects
 
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and symptoms that seemed
 
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incredibly mysterious.
 
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And the medical model in
 
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England where I grew up
 
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just couldn't quite
 
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describe what was happening
 
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or explain it or give me
 
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any good solution.
 
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I think I probably came out
 
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worse than when I went in
 
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to all the various specialists.
 
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And so, yeah,
 
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it just became a passion
 
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project to share the
 
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information and the tools
 
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that have been very helpful for me.
 
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And that background in
 
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science was definitely a
 
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good for diving into all of
 
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the scientific research.
 
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And fortunately,
 
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now a lot of the themes of
 
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nervous system regulation
 
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are becoming much more mainstream,
 
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which is incredible.
 
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Back then, I had to dig pretty deep.
 
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I didn't even know what the
 
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nervous system did.
 
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And we still get guests who
 
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come on our programs that
 
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they still don't know why it's important.
 
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And so it's really
 
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incredibly helpful for them
 
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to just better understand
 
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themselves and how they operate.
 
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It is so beautiful.
 
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The journey of going through
 
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your own health
 
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issues mental physical
 
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emotional and then working
 
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through it and most of the
 
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guests and the people who
 
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are really doing amazing
 
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things in the world are you
 
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know having to do this
 
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first dive or research and
 
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really working out this I
 
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would say a the birth to
 
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the new system of our our
 
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health in our wellness in
 
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our world that we need new
 
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systems and we need
 
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pioneers and innovators and
 
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people who have gone and done
 
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and then we need of course
 
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that the backup the proof
 
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you know okay we got this
 
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now we need to study it you
 
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know so that the the
 
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science model will accept
 
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it but it is that we're
 
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pioneers in this journey
 
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and it's it it's a lot more
 
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to have gone on the journey yourself
 
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And walked it and known not
 
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only the mental, emotional, the grit,
 
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the ups and downs of the journey,
 
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the reality of it.
 
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And that's really what I say
 
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is someone that's a an
 
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activated healer in the world,
 
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because you've done the
 
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healing work yourself, you know,
 
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and you are now sharing it
 
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with the world.
 
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For sure.
 
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It's like a self-actualization process,
 
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I guess.
 
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But I actually didn't even
 
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imagine how helpful that
 
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information could be.
 
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So yeah,
 
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it's definitely a motivator to
 
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keep doing this work.
 
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Yeah.
 
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Well,
 
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you shared a little bit about your
 
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mental health struggles with this,
 
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the challenges.
 
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And as far as your own transformation,
 
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Anything that you want to
 
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share about that or how
 
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this process influenced the
 
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way you are implementing
 
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and supporting others with
 
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your own journey?
 
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Yeah,
 
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I think it was just a pretty slippery
 
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slope into the mental health issues.
 
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I mean, for me,
 
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it definitely started off...
 
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with very much physical symptoms.
 
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For me, it was digestion was a huge issue.
 
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I was hospitalized as a kid
 
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for severe digestive pain,
 
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got put in the IBS question
 
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mark box and was just told that was it,
 
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which I think is a pretty
 
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common scenario for a lot of people.
 
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And over time,
 
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just feeling more and more
 
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out of control of the
 
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symptoms and it then went
 
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into really bad hormonal issues.
 
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definitely being in that
 
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teenage phase where self
 
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feeling self-conscious is
 
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just already off the charts
 
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and to you know have more
 
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things to feel
 
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self-conscious about it for
 
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me created more of a need
 
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to control and uh that felt
 
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like into an eating
 
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disorder and then just
 
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I think general neuroticism
 
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are just trying to figure
 
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it out it's just incredibly
 
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frustrating and I'm sure
 
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many of the listeners have
 
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been in the situation where
 
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they just know there's
 
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something wrong and there's
 
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not not really being
 
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acknowledged and there's
 
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there's just no solution
 
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you're just told well
 
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that's just how it is and
 
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fortunately I was
 
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sufficiently stubborn to
 
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reject the diagnosis that I
 
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was given um some of which were
 
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pretty drastic and really
 
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look for a solution.
 
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But yeah,
 
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I think nervous system regulation
 
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is fundamental to physical
 
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and mental well-being.
 
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I don't think it's the
 
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panacea that fixes absolutely everything.
 
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There's still many other
 
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factors that are involved,
 
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especially in our
 
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environment and many things
 
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that are outside of our control.
 
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But I think
 
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nervous system regulation
 
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does give us some agency to
 
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be able to at least control
 
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our internal environment,
 
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how we perceive the stresses in our lives,
 
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how we can continually send
 
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signals of safety to help
 
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regulate the nervous system
 
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and just get more in touch
 
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with the kind of the
 
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somatic part of our existence,
 
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whereas we tend to be so
 
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stuck in the mental,
 
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which was a huge issue for me.
 
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I mean,
 
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I'm sure there's plenty of
 
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overthinkers on here that
 
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are able to analyze everything,
 
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rationalize everything, you know,
 
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research everything.
 
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I've always got the stack of books,
 
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but actually being able to
 
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just feel and process that
 
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and to just get much more
 
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in touch with the body is important.
 
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It's kind of like learning a
 
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new language and just
 
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trying to understand it.
 
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And that's definitely
 
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something that you said is
 
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necessary in this next
 
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version of medicine.
 
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Our medicine is incredible
 
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for saving lives and in
 
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really acute situations.
 
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But we do just seem to be
 
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falling short for anything
 
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chronic mental health related.
 
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But the paradigm really is shifting.
 
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There's so much.
 
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hopefully all good information.
 
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There's a lot of misinformation out there,
 
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but there's definitely a
 
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lot more good information
 
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in the mainstream of just
 
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helping people to take a
 
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bit more control of their
 
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health and kind of be the
 
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CEO of their health, physical and mental.
 
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We don't really understand how we work.
 
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And because we're such a mental population,
 
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it is sort of supported in
 
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our culture to be mental
 
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and to try to think our way out of things,
 
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which is part of the process,
 
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like researching and trying to say,
 
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I'm stubborn.
 
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I'm not going to take these diagnoses.
 
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I'm going to go and take
 
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matters into my own hands.
 
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which I think that self-responsibility,
 
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that self-inquiry,
 
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it really does help that
 
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empowerment piece,
 
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which is really a lot of
 
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times that cycle of
 
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disempowerment of feeling
 
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not in control really
 
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perpetuates nervous system
 
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issues and anxiety.
 
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And we're actually reading
 
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Atlas of the Heart by Brene
 
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Brown for our book club
 
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right now in our online community.
 
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And it's a great book.
 
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And I love this one part of
 
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the book she's talking about
 
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um how when you have nervous
 
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system issues there is more
 
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of this need to control
 
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there's a lot of hyper
 
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vigilance there is
 
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sometimes this perpetuation
 
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of that and I love this
 
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quote she was actually
 
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quoting elizabeth gilbert
 
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I'm going to paraphrase it
 
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I may not have it exactly
 
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but she said you don't want
 
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to let go of control and
 
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surrender you don't want to
 
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let go and surrender
 
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because you want to be in control
 
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you never had control in the
 
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first place you only had
 
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anxiety I was like that's
 
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the that's it that is a
 
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that is it that is so it so
 
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for those people what what
 
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I think I when I notice
 
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when people have a lot of
 
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issues with their nervous
 
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system because most of my
 
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journey as a professional
 
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is working with people with
 
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their nervous system um as
 
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a highly sensitive
 
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intuitive individual most of my work is
 
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is the extension of the nervous system,
 
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feeling into the space,
 
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feeling into people,
 
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feeling into the consciousness of others,
 
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the emotion of others,
 
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and helping them understand
 
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what they haven't connected
 
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within themselves because
 
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they're so outwardly focused,
 
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not inwardly focused.
 
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They don't even know what's going on.
 
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And so helping them to
 
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redirect in that way,
 
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I noticed a lot of
 
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individuals have such of
 
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this lack of awareness of
 
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their nervous system that
 
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they don't even know that
 
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they have stress or anxiety.
 
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They're like, I'm not stressed.
 
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What are you talking about?
 
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It's really hard too,
 
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because then if there is this realization,
 
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oh my gosh,
 
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there tends to be shame around it.
 
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Like, oh my gosh, I should have known.
 
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And this whole story goes
 
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and just perpetuates.
 
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But could you share with us
 
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a little bit about the
 
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signs that our nervous
 
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system is starting to get
 
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too overstimulated or even
 
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too down-regulated?
 
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What are the symptoms that
 
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people or you normally see
 
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in working with your clientele?
 
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Yeah, you make such a good point there.
 
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It's just like when
 
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something becomes a baseline,
 
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like the normal,
 
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it can feel so strange to not be in that,
 
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even though that normal
 
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isn't helpful or healthy.
 
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And I know for sure I can
 
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raise my hand and say I was
 
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addicted to stress hormones,
 
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adrenaline and cortisol.
 
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And so it can feel really good.
 
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It can feel amazing when
 
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you're like pumped full of adrenaline and
 
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okay I got all these things
 
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to do and I can get a
 
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little done and then really
 
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really strange to not be in
 
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that situation and if that
 
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I mean that realization I
 
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came to was that I'd just
 
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been in that situation my
 
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whole life um just that was
 
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the environment I grew up
 
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in and so having a high
 
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amount of stress hormones
 
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felt really normal so it
 
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feels really strange to not
 
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have that and not safe and
 
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that's a really big theme
 
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of the nervous system is
 
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is safety and familiarity
 
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and the nervous system's
 
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ability to predict what
 
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what's coming next and so
 
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yeah for certain signs I
 
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mean obviously they present
 
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differently in everybody
 
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but um common cues are
 
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things like digestive
 
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issues so it's something
 
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that that I definitely uh
 
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dealt with to a pretty high
 
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degree um and it can really
 
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just start out with you
 
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know some digestive
 
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discomfort bloating um
 
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there's other factors that
 
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can affect digestion but
 
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when we're in that sympathetic state,
 
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which is the activation
 
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response to any kind of threat, the fight,
 
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flight, flee, fawn response,
 
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then it's basically priming
 
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us to be able to respond to
 
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a threat and digestion is
 
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not important at that moment in time.
 
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So we tend to see a
 
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reduction in digestive juices.
 
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It's a slowed gut motility.
 
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So that's how we can often
 
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see bloating because
 
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the food sitting in the gut
 
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longer and fermenting um
 
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and so and that's a common
 
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sign um kind of that brain
 
00:13:07.649 --> 00:13:08.870
fog when we're starting to
 
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feel overwhelmed um
 
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I'm sure you've both felt it
 
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where you just feel like
 
00:13:13.573 --> 00:13:15.096
you just can't quite like
 
00:13:15.135 --> 00:13:16.756
hold in that reactivity
 
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because it's almost like
 
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your brain is full.
 
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And it's because again,
 
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when we're in that
 
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sympathetic dominant state,
 
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we're working a lot more
 
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from the survival part of the brain,
 
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the more primal part of the brain,
 
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and we lose some of our
 
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executive function.
 
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So it can be a lot harder to
 
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kind of take that pause and be like, okay,
 
00:13:34.513 --> 00:13:35.553
let me just like process
 
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this and respond.
 
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We react instead of respond.
 
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And so I think we've all
 
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felt it when we've like
 
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snapped or just kind of taken.
 
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And I mean, again,
 
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this could happen if you're
 
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just sort of hungry or very overtired.
 
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But if this is just
 
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something that's coming up
 
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more consistently, it can be a sign that,
 
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OK,
 
00:13:53.749 --> 00:13:55.009
we're just not really getting into
 
00:13:55.029 --> 00:13:56.311
that full recovery state,
 
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the parasympathetic nervous system state.
 
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and you're staying in that
 
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activated response.
 
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Muscle tension is a big one.
 
00:14:03.698 --> 00:14:06.061
So across the top of the shoulders,
 
00:14:06.081 --> 00:14:08.023
like the upper back in the calves,
 
00:14:08.783 --> 00:14:10.505
that's your body bracing
 
00:14:10.546 --> 00:14:12.849
and priming itself for action,
 
00:14:13.188 --> 00:14:14.730
whether it needs to fight or run.
 
00:14:15.311 --> 00:14:17.693
And so we'll see a lot of tension,
 
00:14:17.833 --> 00:14:19.475
often tension in the jaw too.
 
00:14:19.515 --> 00:14:20.176
That's a big one.
 
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And I mean, amongst many other things,
 
00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:25.441
hormonal imbalance is often
 
00:14:25.461 --> 00:14:26.861
a bit more downstream from that,
 
00:14:26.942 --> 00:14:28.363
because if we are in that
 
00:14:29.323 --> 00:14:30.044
activation response,
 
00:14:30.085 --> 00:14:30.745
we are producing more
 
00:14:30.764 --> 00:14:31.625
adrenaline and cortisol.
 
00:14:31.645 --> 00:14:32.767
So that's why it can feel
 
00:14:32.807 --> 00:14:34.087
quite good for a while.
 
00:14:34.609 --> 00:14:36.570
But those stress hormones
 
00:14:36.669 --> 00:14:38.251
are stealing the raw
 
00:14:38.272 --> 00:14:39.172
materials that are needed
 
00:14:39.192 --> 00:14:40.693
to make other sex hormones.
 
00:14:40.754 --> 00:14:41.254
And also,
 
00:14:41.413 --> 00:14:43.275
if we're in this constant state of threat,
 
00:14:43.296 --> 00:14:45.256
it isn't a great time to reproduce.
 
00:14:46.477 --> 00:14:47.339
body's going to conserve
 
00:14:47.379 --> 00:14:49.120
energy where it can because
 
00:14:49.159 --> 00:14:50.400
it is just predicting that
 
00:14:50.441 --> 00:14:52.062
it's going to have to use
 
00:14:52.121 --> 00:14:54.403
resources to activate
 
00:14:54.442 --> 00:14:55.764
against some kind of threat
 
00:14:56.284 --> 00:14:57.645
and so often we'll see
 
00:14:57.985 --> 00:14:59.667
hormonal imbalance and
 
00:15:02.491 --> 00:15:04.052
it will be different for men and women.
 
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I do feel like women are
 
00:15:06.073 --> 00:15:07.453
more sensitive to it and
 
00:15:07.914 --> 00:15:08.995
their monthly cycle do give
 
00:15:09.014 --> 00:15:10.936
some like clues.
 
00:15:11.296 --> 00:15:12.937
You can look into certain
 
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symptoms and what's happening there.
 
00:15:17.038 --> 00:15:17.879
And there's many others.
 
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I mean,
 
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obviously like a high level of
 
00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:20.320
fatigue and
 
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There's a kind of a spectrum.
 
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So like I said,
 
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it can sometimes feel quite
 
00:15:23.965 --> 00:15:24.765
good at the beginning
 
00:15:24.785 --> 00:15:25.506
because there are enough
 
00:15:25.567 --> 00:15:26.528
reserves producing that
 
00:15:26.568 --> 00:15:27.591
cortisol and adrenaline.
 
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Then we get into like, okay,
 
00:15:29.052 --> 00:15:30.254
it's going on for quite a
 
00:15:30.274 --> 00:15:31.235
while and these symptoms
 
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start to present.
 
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And then we can get into
 
00:15:33.619 --> 00:15:35.162
what polyvagal theory calls
 
00:15:35.201 --> 00:15:36.403
a dorsal vagal shutdown.
 
00:15:37.205 --> 00:15:38.905
So that's just when the
 
00:15:39.586 --> 00:15:40.427
sympathetic branch of the
 
00:15:40.447 --> 00:15:41.128
nervous system has been
 
00:15:41.207 --> 00:15:42.428
activated for so long,
 
00:15:42.448 --> 00:15:43.711
there aren't really enough
 
00:15:43.890 --> 00:15:46.033
resources to keep that response going.
 
00:15:46.153 --> 00:15:48.315
And it's just like a freeze response.
 
00:15:48.355 --> 00:15:50.517
So that can just feel like
 
00:15:50.856 --> 00:15:53.159
being completely lethargic,
 
00:15:53.639 --> 00:15:55.861
not having the motivation to be hungry,
 
00:15:55.922 --> 00:15:57.123
but barely being able to go
 
00:15:57.143 --> 00:15:58.004
and make some food,
 
00:15:59.085 --> 00:16:00.527
really low motivation.
 
00:16:01.226 --> 00:16:02.008
um and just really
 
00:16:02.028 --> 00:16:02.929
struggling to get quite
 
00:16:02.950 --> 00:16:04.491
basic tasks done kind of
 
00:16:04.511 --> 00:16:06.033
that zoned out daydreaming
 
00:16:06.794 --> 00:16:08.917
um and so yeah again many
 
00:16:08.937 --> 00:16:09.758
different symptoms but
 
00:16:09.778 --> 00:16:10.499
they're some of the most
 
00:16:10.539 --> 00:16:11.421
common ones that we see
 
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I just find it a reminder, you know,
 
00:16:14.210 --> 00:16:15.630
when we are trying to fight
 
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our bodies because our
 
00:16:16.831 --> 00:16:19.293
culture wants us to push or to,
 
00:16:19.373 --> 00:16:20.573
it's normal to push.
 
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And that when we're like, oh my gosh,
 
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or maybe I'm burned out and
 
00:16:23.995 --> 00:16:25.015
the fear of that or the
 
00:16:25.056 --> 00:16:27.798
thought of that can be like, oh my gosh.
 
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And I feel like it's,
 
00:16:30.278 --> 00:16:31.779
I think our body is so incredible.
 
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The reminder of how
 
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what it is always doing to
 
00:16:35.701 --> 00:16:37.222
actually help trying to
 
00:16:37.263 --> 00:16:38.423
create equilibrium,
 
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but we don't have the
 
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capacity or the language to listen to it.
 
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So most of our,
 
00:16:44.307 --> 00:16:45.308
our work here in
 
00:16:45.489 --> 00:16:46.389
Pennsylvania is working
 
00:16:46.428 --> 00:16:47.830
with the nervous system and
 
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helping people understand it.
 
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But for massage,
 
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that is one of the first
 
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things that when people
 
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either come to a yoga class,
 
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because I teach Kundalini,
 
00:16:54.995 --> 00:16:56.375
which is all about the nervous system,
 
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or if they are coming from
 
00:16:58.092 --> 00:16:58.972
massage or some sort of
 
00:16:59.013 --> 00:16:59.953
therapeutic aspect,
 
00:17:00.634 --> 00:17:02.355
it's very apparent to us
 
00:17:02.535 --> 00:17:03.956
that we kind of help people say,
 
00:17:04.376 --> 00:17:05.778
if you are still having a
 
00:17:05.817 --> 00:17:06.939
hard time getting off the
 
00:17:06.979 --> 00:17:08.098
hamster wheel mentally
 
00:17:08.680 --> 00:17:12.362
during that spot of, of these breath work,
 
00:17:12.402 --> 00:17:14.723
this, this, this work with the body, it,
 
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it can help down regulate,
 
00:17:16.765 --> 00:17:18.566
but if they're really still challenged,
 
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It helps them and helps us
 
00:17:21.349 --> 00:17:22.471
understand where on this
 
00:17:22.510 --> 00:17:24.531
spectrum you're talking about they are.
 
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And it could be different
 
00:17:26.012 --> 00:17:26.933
from day to day depending
 
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on what's going on.
 
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But I think that that's one thing.
 
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If you are someone that
 
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cannot shut your mind down
 
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in situations or
 
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circumstances where you're
 
00:17:35.720 --> 00:17:37.500
getting these supports for
 
00:17:37.540 --> 00:17:38.721
relaxation response,
 
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I think that is a cue too.
 
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So what do you think about that?
 
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Yeah, absolutely.
 
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And I think often,
 
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especially when we're
 
00:17:46.967 --> 00:17:47.827
feeling good on the
 
00:17:47.847 --> 00:17:49.228
adrenaline and cortisol,
 
00:17:49.248 --> 00:17:50.269
like the stress hormones,
 
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when we actually go to rest,
 
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we can feel so much more exhausted.
 
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It's kind of like what
 
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happens when people go on
 
00:17:58.152 --> 00:17:59.932
vacation and sometimes they'll get sick.
 
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and it's just their body
 
00:18:01.053 --> 00:18:02.173
just really trying to like
 
00:18:02.233 --> 00:18:03.795
recover a lot of their
 
00:18:04.075 --> 00:18:05.035
resources because they
 
00:18:05.075 --> 00:18:08.336
finally slowed down and the
 
00:18:08.396 --> 00:18:09.196
adrenaline was giving this
 
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like temporary boost to the
 
00:18:11.817 --> 00:18:14.538
immune system and so yeah I
 
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think and then I think some
 
00:18:16.079 --> 00:18:16.920
people get stuck in that
 
00:18:16.940 --> 00:18:17.780
well I just I just have to
 
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keep going I just have to
 
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keep going and it's very much the
 
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I mean, somewhat of a coping mechanism,
 
00:18:23.486 --> 00:18:23.586
right?
 
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I mean,
 
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that's where a lot of nervous
 
00:18:24.606 --> 00:18:25.868
system dysregulation comes
 
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from is just how we are
 
00:18:29.074 --> 00:18:30.516
perceiving the world and
 
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how we feel we have to respond to it.
 
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And most of that is
 
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programmed in our very early years.
 
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It can change if there's,
 
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big events in our adult life
 
00:18:38.746 --> 00:18:39.646
but most of it's coming
 
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from our early years when
 
00:18:41.008 --> 00:18:42.450
our nervous system is
 
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myelinated and that's like
 
00:18:43.750 --> 00:18:45.711
these super fast highways
 
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of information and so that
 
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can feel so default that
 
00:18:50.517 --> 00:18:51.376
it's very hard to see
 
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outside of it because it's
 
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almost like well if I don't
 
00:18:54.660 --> 00:18:55.800
exist in this way how would
 
00:18:55.820 --> 00:18:57.222
I exist you know there's no
 
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there's like no other
 
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paradigm that is that you
 
00:19:00.605 --> 00:19:01.826
can actually relate to
 
00:19:01.926 --> 00:19:03.808
until over time that neural
 
00:19:03.828 --> 00:19:06.612
circuitry shifts and so I
 
00:19:06.632 --> 00:19:08.212
think really building
 
00:19:08.252 --> 00:19:09.714
awareness of where are
 
00:19:09.755 --> 00:19:11.517
these patterns coming from
 
00:19:12.017 --> 00:19:13.337
and you know when you do see these
 
00:19:14.499 --> 00:19:15.779
this repetition and behavior
 
00:19:15.799 --> 00:19:16.740
and habits and things that
 
00:19:16.780 --> 00:19:17.662
maybe aren't particularly
 
00:19:17.701 --> 00:19:18.883
helpful or just are not
 
00:19:18.923 --> 00:19:21.184
leading to this life we want to live.
 
00:19:21.684 --> 00:19:23.027
It's a really good time to
 
00:19:23.067 --> 00:19:24.988
be able to assess, you know,
 
00:19:25.067 --> 00:19:26.148
is this because I'm people
 
00:19:26.169 --> 00:19:26.970
pleasing because I had to
 
00:19:27.009 --> 00:19:28.550
do that to be able to stay safe?
 
00:19:28.651 --> 00:19:29.791
Is this because I feel like
 
00:19:29.852 --> 00:19:31.673
I have to be productive all of the time,
 
00:19:31.693 --> 00:19:32.595
which is really common
 
00:19:33.214 --> 00:19:35.537
because we've been groomed in that way.
 
00:19:37.133 --> 00:19:38.013
typically in the western
 
00:19:38.054 --> 00:19:39.535
world of productivity and
 
00:19:39.575 --> 00:19:41.135
achievement and success and
 
00:19:41.316 --> 00:19:43.817
is you know x y and z uh
 
00:19:43.877 --> 00:19:45.318
which don't necessarily
 
00:19:45.358 --> 00:19:48.641
correlate to restoring our
 
00:19:48.701 --> 00:19:49.681
nervous systems to their
 
00:19:50.162 --> 00:19:51.982
optimal state um so yeah it
 
00:19:52.002 --> 00:19:52.423
can feel very
 
00:19:52.482 --> 00:19:53.663
counterintuitive which again
 
00:19:53.743 --> 00:19:54.585
going back to safety that
 
00:19:54.625 --> 00:19:55.905
can feel unsafe it's like
 
00:19:55.986 --> 00:19:57.346
well I'm not gonna you know
 
00:19:57.386 --> 00:19:59.407
this this isn't um really
 
00:19:59.508 --> 00:20:01.489
fitting into my my picture
 
00:20:01.509 --> 00:20:03.290
of what safety is and so
 
00:20:04.171 --> 00:20:05.132
really that can be just a
 
00:20:05.172 --> 00:20:06.794
case of like easing into it
 
00:20:06.874 --> 00:20:09.217
and really again the
 
00:20:09.237 --> 00:20:10.417
nervous system likes to
 
00:20:10.478 --> 00:20:12.079
predict what it's going to
 
00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:13.701
need in a given situation
 
00:20:13.942 --> 00:20:14.803
something called
 
00:20:14.843 --> 00:20:17.365
neuroception so and being
 
00:20:17.385 --> 00:20:19.228
able to retrain that it is
 
00:20:19.307 --> 00:20:20.388
almost like an exposure
 
00:20:20.449 --> 00:20:21.891
therapy where we have to
 
00:20:22.250 --> 00:20:23.492
program it to be like
 
00:20:23.573 --> 00:20:24.953
actually everything's okay
 
00:20:25.934 --> 00:20:27.036
I say this to myself, too,
 
00:20:27.056 --> 00:20:27.715
because I still catch
 
00:20:27.736 --> 00:20:28.655
myself in these loops.
 
00:20:29.076 --> 00:20:29.596
Like, actually,
 
00:20:29.635 --> 00:20:30.557
everything's okay if you
 
00:20:30.576 --> 00:20:33.198
just don't do all these things today.
 
00:20:33.698 --> 00:20:33.998
And obviously,
 
00:20:34.057 --> 00:20:35.739
that is different for every person.
 
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Circumstances are going to dictate.
 
00:20:37.778 --> 00:20:38.539
When you have children,
 
00:20:38.559 --> 00:20:39.720
there's a certain amount of
 
00:20:39.740 --> 00:20:40.559
things you have to do.
 
00:20:40.980 --> 00:20:41.921
You have a high pressure job.
 
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There's a certain number of
 
00:20:43.381 --> 00:20:44.382
things that need to be done.
 
00:20:44.561 --> 00:20:46.602
But how can we exist within
 
00:20:46.642 --> 00:20:49.403
that and still get at least
 
00:20:49.522 --> 00:20:50.604
get some time in that
 
00:20:50.663 --> 00:20:51.963
parasympathetic recovery
 
00:20:52.023 --> 00:20:54.005
state and keep that balance?
 
00:20:54.605 --> 00:20:55.765
I definitely feel that
 
00:20:55.805 --> 00:20:56.724
that's been part of the
 
00:20:56.744 --> 00:20:57.365
journey that's been
 
00:20:57.385 --> 00:20:59.546
challenging so my clinic is
 
00:20:59.786 --> 00:21:00.665
since we've been open since
 
00:21:00.766 --> 00:21:03.027
and we grew organically
 
00:21:03.067 --> 00:21:04.166
very quickly I was going to
 
00:21:04.186 --> 00:21:05.126
school to be a chiropractor
 
00:21:05.146 --> 00:21:06.207
and just you know doing
 
00:21:06.227 --> 00:21:07.488
massage therapy along the
 
00:21:07.528 --> 00:21:09.067
way so I could get my hands
 
00:21:09.107 --> 00:21:09.948
on people legally in the
 
00:21:09.988 --> 00:21:11.307
meantime and then it grew
 
00:21:11.367 --> 00:21:12.669
organically life pivoted
 
00:21:12.749 --> 00:21:15.009
and then we hired employees
 
00:21:15.068 --> 00:21:16.209
and it went in this space
 
00:21:16.288 --> 00:21:17.490
where it was going great
 
00:21:17.569 --> 00:21:19.509
and then covet hit and then I had
 
00:21:19.910 --> 00:21:21.111
you know, the, the,
 
00:21:21.692 --> 00:21:23.413
the choice to continue to
 
00:21:23.653 --> 00:21:24.493
keep this place who's
 
00:21:24.513 --> 00:21:25.595
making a huge difference in
 
00:21:25.635 --> 00:21:28.919
our area open or let it go.
 
00:21:29.038 --> 00:21:30.160
And I chose to keep it open.
 
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And I took on the jobs of
 
00:21:31.300 --> 00:21:32.642
four administrative staff
 
00:21:33.082 --> 00:21:35.505
because of thinking it would be, you know,
 
00:21:35.565 --> 00:21:37.145
maybe six months to a year.
 
00:21:37.727 --> 00:21:40.729
And so my journey understanding,
 
00:21:41.109 --> 00:21:42.010
especially as an intuitive,
 
00:21:42.050 --> 00:21:43.071
I knew that the importance
 
00:21:43.112 --> 00:21:44.532
of the nervous system and regulation,
 
00:21:44.593 --> 00:21:45.113
because that's,
 
00:21:45.733 --> 00:21:47.476
That's how, in general,
 
00:21:47.536 --> 00:21:49.518
having so much dysregulation growing up,
 
00:21:49.838 --> 00:21:51.180
being disassociated from the body,
 
00:21:51.200 --> 00:21:52.261
that's part of the reason
 
00:21:52.342 --> 00:21:53.863
why I can tune into people.
 
00:21:53.903 --> 00:21:54.904
Because you're just
 
00:21:54.944 --> 00:21:56.645
disassociated from the self.
 
00:21:56.666 --> 00:21:57.807
There's a high correlation
 
00:21:57.827 --> 00:21:58.828
to our listeners and people
 
00:21:58.848 --> 00:22:00.290
that connect that are
 
00:22:00.330 --> 00:22:01.491
having nervous system issues.
 
00:22:01.551 --> 00:22:02.292
And then they're saying, hey,
 
00:22:02.333 --> 00:22:03.193
I'm having empathic
 
00:22:03.654 --> 00:22:04.335
sensitivities,
 
00:22:04.355 --> 00:22:05.195
or I'm feeling or I'm
 
00:22:05.516 --> 00:22:06.675
feeling like my intuitions,
 
00:22:06.816 --> 00:22:08.416
because it's part of the process.
 
00:22:08.676 --> 00:22:10.117
But it's a dysregulated way,
 
00:22:10.278 --> 00:22:13.700
almost a trauma based entry
 
00:22:13.740 --> 00:22:15.621
point into a spiritual type
 
00:22:15.681 --> 00:22:16.901
of experience.
 
00:22:17.300 --> 00:22:18.842
So it's really interesting
 
00:22:18.862 --> 00:22:20.583
what you're sharing about, you know,
 
00:22:20.623 --> 00:22:22.624
the the journey of safety
 
00:22:23.263 --> 00:22:27.326
has been the key word of how to reprogram
 
00:22:27.746 --> 00:22:29.106
my nervous system and I love
 
00:22:29.146 --> 00:22:30.347
that you shared that and
 
00:22:30.468 --> 00:22:32.750
also the addiction and to
 
00:22:32.829 --> 00:22:33.770
the nervous system's
 
00:22:33.871 --> 00:22:35.511
response of the cortisol
 
00:22:35.551 --> 00:22:37.134
like this is how it is
 
00:22:37.213 --> 00:22:38.634
normally now wait when
 
00:22:38.654 --> 00:22:39.816
there is like stillness
 
00:22:39.875 --> 00:22:41.376
this is if you said like
 
00:22:41.436 --> 00:22:43.057
exposure therapy having to
 
00:22:43.719 --> 00:22:44.398
I've had to allow my
 
00:22:44.440 --> 00:22:48.041
nervous system to feel okay
 
00:22:48.102 --> 00:22:50.845
with not having those high amounts of
 
00:22:51.484 --> 00:22:53.145
of chemicals running through me.
 
00:22:53.165 --> 00:22:55.907
And it's been really challenging,
 
00:22:55.949 --> 00:22:57.269
but amazing.
 
00:22:57.329 --> 00:23:01.031
Just the experience of being
 
00:23:01.071 --> 00:23:02.432
able to surrender into a
 
00:23:02.513 --> 00:23:03.534
space where there's no
 
00:23:03.594 --> 00:23:05.796
pressure after years or a
 
00:23:05.875 --> 00:23:08.077
lifetime is why I think
 
00:23:08.097 --> 00:23:09.878
that the work you're doing is incredible.
 
00:23:10.058 --> 00:23:11.961
And helping people to touch that is
 
00:23:12.500 --> 00:23:13.601
just it can completely
 
00:23:13.641 --> 00:23:16.162
transform anything so you
 
00:23:16.182 --> 00:23:17.583
know burnout in general if
 
00:23:17.623 --> 00:23:19.763
we kind of shift into that
 
00:23:19.784 --> 00:23:20.463
because that's something
 
00:23:20.483 --> 00:23:21.805
that is significant in
 
00:23:21.825 --> 00:23:23.244
today's workforce and like
 
00:23:23.265 --> 00:23:24.184
I shared my journey I'm not
 
00:23:24.224 --> 00:23:25.705
the only one that there
 
00:23:25.726 --> 00:23:26.105
were a lot of
 
00:23:26.165 --> 00:23:28.047
administrators in these positions
 
00:23:28.626 --> 00:23:30.428
and nurses and people on the
 
00:23:30.468 --> 00:23:32.529
front lines and people in general,
 
00:23:32.569 --> 00:23:33.569
parents that didn't have
 
00:23:33.951 --> 00:23:34.851
children in school.
 
00:23:35.432 --> 00:23:38.354
So in today's workforce,
 
00:23:38.753 --> 00:23:39.594
what are some of the early
 
00:23:39.653 --> 00:23:41.075
signs of burnout that
 
00:23:41.776 --> 00:23:43.196
people will often overlook?
 
00:23:43.876 --> 00:23:44.356
Yeah,
 
00:23:44.397 --> 00:23:45.377
I think it's quite a similar
 
00:23:45.417 --> 00:23:47.740
crossover to the symptoms I just shared.
 
00:23:47.880 --> 00:23:49.641
I think what happens is
 
00:23:50.080 --> 00:23:51.241
there's just almost a
 
00:23:51.321 --> 00:23:52.482
dissociation from it.
 
00:23:52.963 --> 00:23:53.084
I mean,
 
00:23:53.144 --> 00:23:54.684
we get a lot of guests coming down.
 
00:23:54.704 --> 00:23:55.806
We've had like lawyers
 
00:23:55.846 --> 00:23:56.526
who've never taken a
 
00:23:56.566 --> 00:23:58.067
vacation for ten years, you know,
 
00:23:58.106 --> 00:23:59.387
because they're just so
 
00:23:59.468 --> 00:24:00.909
focused on the achievement
 
00:24:00.949 --> 00:24:03.050
piece and what's expected of them.
 
00:24:03.990 --> 00:24:05.471
So I think a lot of
 
00:24:07.050 --> 00:24:08.792
professional employees in their jobs,
 
00:24:08.913 --> 00:24:09.814
they are aware that
 
00:24:09.854 --> 00:24:10.934
something's going wrong.
 
00:24:11.194 --> 00:24:12.576
It's more the kind of
 
00:24:12.875 --> 00:24:14.817
cultural piece of the
 
00:24:14.857 --> 00:24:15.838
company that's maybe
 
00:24:16.278 --> 00:24:18.020
pushing them down that road,
 
00:24:18.040 --> 00:24:19.622
because a lot of especially
 
00:24:19.662 --> 00:24:21.663
corporate tends to be quite competitive.
 
00:24:22.505 --> 00:24:22.684
You know,
 
00:24:22.724 --> 00:24:24.567
you have to really put your hours
 
00:24:24.626 --> 00:24:25.988
in to be able to work your way up.
 
00:24:26.067 --> 00:24:27.128
And it's just all designed
 
00:24:27.169 --> 00:24:28.750
in a way that people are
 
00:24:28.810 --> 00:24:29.871
almost sacrificing
 
00:24:30.991 --> 00:24:32.853
their needs to be able to
 
00:24:33.153 --> 00:24:34.973
keep working their way up this ladder.
 
00:24:35.594 --> 00:24:37.555
And so we do get a lot of
 
00:24:37.674 --> 00:24:39.355
corporate and burnt out professionals,
 
00:24:39.516 --> 00:24:41.997
and usually they're doing fine,
 
00:24:42.017 --> 00:24:42.997
they're doing fine, they're pushing more,
 
00:24:43.017 --> 00:24:43.518
they're pushing more,
 
00:24:43.538 --> 00:24:44.057
they're pushing more,
 
00:24:44.097 --> 00:24:45.097
and then it just stops.
 
00:24:45.337 --> 00:24:48.180
And it's clearly where the
 
00:24:48.220 --> 00:24:49.900
body has just used up all
 
00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:52.381
of its resources in getting to that point,
 
00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:53.701
and there's just no more.
 
00:24:54.221 --> 00:24:56.063
And so the signs are always there.
 
00:24:56.563 --> 00:24:57.663
It's just very easy to
 
00:24:57.703 --> 00:24:58.805
ignore them to the point I
 
00:24:58.825 --> 00:24:59.845
think we often are trained
 
00:24:59.865 --> 00:25:00.625
to ignore them.
 
00:25:01.246 --> 00:25:02.205
And so again,
 
00:25:02.266 --> 00:25:03.846
it's getting out of the mind.
 
00:25:04.126 --> 00:25:04.827
I mean, a corporate job,
 
00:25:04.847 --> 00:25:06.128
could it be any more in your mind?
 
00:25:06.169 --> 00:25:06.368
I mean,
 
00:25:06.469 --> 00:25:08.349
literally that is the tool is to
 
00:25:08.490 --> 00:25:10.250
work with your mind and
 
00:25:10.810 --> 00:25:11.711
just kind of ignore your
 
00:25:11.731 --> 00:25:13.291
body all of the time.
 
00:25:14.012 --> 00:25:15.913
And so, yeah, we...
 
00:25:16.940 --> 00:25:17.440
I mean,
 
00:25:17.480 --> 00:25:20.020
what I think really will help with
 
00:25:20.040 --> 00:25:21.281
the shift rather than I mean, obviously,
 
00:25:21.301 --> 00:25:22.261
it's really important for
 
00:25:22.281 --> 00:25:24.363
each individual to be able
 
00:25:24.403 --> 00:25:26.144
to understand those cues
 
00:25:26.203 --> 00:25:27.005
and do something about it.
 
00:25:27.025 --> 00:25:28.585
But in their given work situation,
 
00:25:28.644 --> 00:25:29.726
they might not be able to.
 
00:25:30.125 --> 00:25:30.826
And so this is where it
 
00:25:30.905 --> 00:25:32.567
really is a cultural work,
 
00:25:32.586 --> 00:25:34.028
a cultural piece.
 
00:25:34.248 --> 00:25:35.567
And there's just so much
 
00:25:35.647 --> 00:25:38.349
evidence to show that.
 
00:25:39.377 --> 00:25:41.378
cultivating obviously
 
00:25:41.419 --> 00:25:42.720
healthier employees is
 
00:25:42.759 --> 00:25:43.500
going to actually lead to
 
00:25:43.559 --> 00:25:45.320
much better results you
 
00:25:45.361 --> 00:25:46.481
know that's physically and
 
00:25:46.821 --> 00:25:47.563
mentally if they're
 
00:25:47.583 --> 00:25:48.282
completely burnt out
 
00:25:48.303 --> 00:25:49.063
they're not they're losing
 
00:25:49.123 --> 00:25:50.163
executive function in their
 
00:25:50.183 --> 00:25:51.525
brain anyway so we're not
 
00:25:51.565 --> 00:25:52.965
getting good results and
 
00:25:53.326 --> 00:25:54.165
you know even just for the
 
00:25:54.226 --> 00:25:55.007
entrepreneur the
 
00:25:55.027 --> 00:25:56.186
solopreneur working at home
 
00:25:56.207 --> 00:25:57.127
there's probably like
 
00:25:57.167 --> 00:25:58.348
realistically four hours in
 
00:25:58.368 --> 00:25:59.028
the day when you can
 
00:25:59.169 --> 00:26:00.369
actually do really
 
00:26:00.430 --> 00:26:02.310
productive good quality work
 
00:26:02.770 --> 00:26:03.751
because it's just a limit
 
00:26:03.791 --> 00:26:04.913
we're not we're not robots
 
00:26:05.073 --> 00:26:07.976
and and so being very aware
 
00:26:07.996 --> 00:26:09.277
of that but then also just
 
00:26:09.797 --> 00:26:12.160
the um the power of of like
 
00:26:12.180 --> 00:26:13.800
the leadership piece and
 
00:26:13.840 --> 00:26:15.903
leading by example and also
 
00:26:16.544 --> 00:26:18.285
uh you mentioned like being
 
00:26:18.305 --> 00:26:19.385
an empath and and that
 
00:26:19.625 --> 00:26:22.009
co-regulation piece where
 
00:26:23.612 --> 00:26:25.574
I don't think a lot of
 
00:26:25.634 --> 00:26:26.796
leaders have got to their
 
00:26:26.816 --> 00:26:27.696
position because
 
00:26:28.459 --> 00:26:29.359
necessarily because of
 
00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:30.682
their skills with humans,
 
00:26:30.761 --> 00:26:32.203
usually it's because of technical skill.
 
00:26:32.825 --> 00:26:33.705
And so there's a lot of
 
00:26:33.746 --> 00:26:35.669
focus on the technical skill, but I mean,
 
00:26:35.709 --> 00:26:37.290
there's incredible studies
 
00:26:37.351 --> 00:26:38.232
out there just showing how
 
00:26:38.252 --> 00:26:39.094
impactful it can be
 
00:26:40.035 --> 00:26:42.798
actually when the leader is
 
00:26:42.897 --> 00:26:45.800
very aware of how their
 
00:26:45.980 --> 00:26:46.961
nervous system state,
 
00:26:47.423 --> 00:26:48.002
maybe not actually
 
00:26:48.022 --> 00:26:49.285
presented as nervous system state,
 
00:26:49.305 --> 00:26:51.626
but their manner of being,
 
00:26:52.067 --> 00:26:53.108
how that then impacts the
 
00:26:53.128 --> 00:26:53.970
rest of the team.
 
00:26:54.710 --> 00:26:55.490
There's great studies on
 
00:26:55.530 --> 00:26:57.133
psychological safety and
 
00:26:58.733 --> 00:26:59.474
If the leaders in the
 
00:26:59.494 --> 00:27:01.595
workplace are in a much
 
00:27:01.674 --> 00:27:03.135
more kind of survival mode,
 
00:27:03.695 --> 00:27:05.096
they're going to be micromanaging,
 
00:27:05.116 --> 00:27:06.336
they're going to be reactive,
 
00:27:06.376 --> 00:27:07.117
they're going to be making
 
00:27:07.157 --> 00:27:08.337
impulsive decisions.
 
00:27:08.817 --> 00:27:09.919
None of these things are
 
00:27:10.298 --> 00:27:12.380
good for good work and it
 
00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:14.540
doesn't lead to a good work environment.
 
00:27:14.921 --> 00:27:16.422
and I mean I've also run a
 
00:27:16.481 --> 00:27:18.363
company and I do my best to
 
00:27:18.403 --> 00:27:19.683
walk the talk but obviously
 
00:27:19.743 --> 00:27:20.744
there's times there's times
 
00:27:20.785 --> 00:27:22.026
when you know things happen
 
00:27:22.066 --> 00:27:23.386
and you just have to go go
 
00:27:23.426 --> 00:27:25.367
go and um you know meet the
 
00:27:25.387 --> 00:27:26.769
deadlines and make them you
 
00:27:26.788 --> 00:27:27.469
know there's people's
 
00:27:27.509 --> 00:27:28.809
salaries on the line so you
 
00:27:28.829 --> 00:27:30.270
just have to make it make
 
00:27:30.310 --> 00:27:31.751
it work no matter what but
 
00:27:31.771 --> 00:27:32.472
it's always trying to
 
00:27:32.532 --> 00:27:33.692
balance that with a
 
00:27:33.733 --> 00:27:35.894
recovery period and then to
 
00:27:35.934 --> 00:27:37.655
as much as possible being
 
00:27:37.776 --> 00:27:40.077
able to actually um
 
00:27:41.218 --> 00:27:42.259
not necessarily just be
 
00:27:42.298 --> 00:27:43.199
completely contagious with
 
00:27:43.219 --> 00:27:45.299
your stress right like
 
00:27:45.319 --> 00:27:46.101
everything's like falling
 
00:27:46.121 --> 00:27:47.961
apart and it's a challenge
 
00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:48.721
you know the challenge is
 
00:27:48.741 --> 00:27:49.642
something that I'm still
 
00:27:49.981 --> 00:27:51.163
working on but try to do my
 
00:27:51.182 --> 00:27:55.005
best to be very aware of my
 
00:27:55.045 --> 00:27:56.325
state and you know so we do
 
00:27:56.345 --> 00:27:57.445
our programs when I walk in
 
00:27:57.506 --> 00:27:58.625
on site everybody can pick
 
00:27:58.726 --> 00:28:00.027
up on that state and it's
 
00:28:00.267 --> 00:28:03.028
it's so contagious and I
 
00:28:03.067 --> 00:28:04.209
think we've all felt it
 
00:28:04.249 --> 00:28:05.249
when somebody walks in a
 
00:28:05.308 --> 00:28:06.450
room and they're horribly
 
00:28:06.529 --> 00:28:08.651
stressed or angry or upset and it's
 
00:28:08.951 --> 00:28:10.832
I can feel it.
 
00:28:10.912 --> 00:28:11.992
And then the exact reverse
 
00:28:12.053 --> 00:28:17.355
is true when somebody is feeling upbeat,
 
00:28:17.435 --> 00:28:19.938
optimistic, really content and joyous.
 
00:28:20.678 --> 00:28:21.818
It's also contagious.
 
00:28:21.919 --> 00:28:23.799
And so not that we can be in
 
00:28:23.819 --> 00:28:24.580
those states a hundred
 
00:28:24.601 --> 00:28:25.441
percent of the time,
 
00:28:25.500 --> 00:28:26.481
but I think it's a great
 
00:28:26.521 --> 00:28:28.803
way to just cultivate and start to
 
00:28:29.943 --> 00:28:31.425
create more awareness around
 
00:28:31.526 --> 00:28:32.607
how our states affect
 
00:28:32.708 --> 00:28:34.309
others and then really
 
00:28:34.369 --> 00:28:35.912
listening into our cues you
 
00:28:35.932 --> 00:28:37.213
know every day we're just
 
00:28:37.233 --> 00:28:38.295
getting these signs and the
 
00:28:38.315 --> 00:28:39.336
body's always going to send
 
00:28:39.396 --> 00:28:42.320
signs and if language is a
 
00:28:42.340 --> 00:28:43.481
great one dr aaron who's an
 
00:28:43.502 --> 00:28:44.523
incredible chiropractor on
 
00:28:44.544 --> 00:28:46.946
our program he uses the example of um
 
00:28:47.748 --> 00:28:50.888
language wrong by saying, oh, I have to,
 
00:28:51.288 --> 00:28:54.109
I need to, I have to go do this thing.
 
00:28:54.250 --> 00:28:55.589
Oh, I need to do this thing.
 
00:28:55.670 --> 00:28:57.289
Instead of like, I want and love to just,
 
00:28:57.309 --> 00:28:58.310
there's little clues.
 
00:28:58.351 --> 00:28:58.691
If you're just,
 
00:28:59.151 --> 00:29:00.411
if you're getting into that phase,
 
00:29:00.691 --> 00:29:02.731
I noticed it in myself with the company,
 
00:29:02.832 --> 00:29:05.112
I kind of accidentally started a company.
 
00:29:05.192 --> 00:29:07.012
I wanted to share these tools,
 
00:29:07.053 --> 00:29:08.712
but it does involve running a business.
 
00:29:08.833 --> 00:29:10.534
And there's certain areas where I'm like,
 
00:29:10.594 --> 00:29:11.634
oh, I have to do this.
 
00:29:12.213 --> 00:29:14.134
And so over time, I've like tried to,
 
00:29:14.154 --> 00:29:14.375
you know,
 
00:29:14.494 --> 00:29:15.335
I don't particularly want to
 
00:29:15.355 --> 00:29:15.894
deal with accounts.
 
00:29:15.934 --> 00:29:16.736
I don't particularly want to
 
00:29:16.756 --> 00:29:17.576
deal with legal stuff.
 
00:29:18.516 --> 00:29:21.196
But over time, trying to find a way to,
 
00:29:21.257 --> 00:29:21.576
okay, well,
 
00:29:21.596 --> 00:29:23.137
maybe that bit can be delegated.
 
00:29:23.157 --> 00:29:25.138
So I can keep focusing on this part or,
 
00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:26.259
you know, in the job,
 
00:29:26.439 --> 00:29:27.700
it's not always possible,
 
00:29:27.819 --> 00:29:28.880
but maybe there's something
 
00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:30.161
else that can offset.
 
00:29:30.641 --> 00:29:31.641
So we're just not always in
 
00:29:31.661 --> 00:29:33.442
this like productivity duty
 
00:29:33.942 --> 00:29:36.202
and kind of stuck in this mindset of,
 
00:29:36.222 --> 00:29:36.403
well,
 
00:29:37.083 --> 00:29:38.304
this is just hard life is
 
00:29:38.344 --> 00:29:39.885
just hard it's like a very
 
00:29:40.546 --> 00:29:41.547
um I guess you'd call it
 
00:29:41.567 --> 00:29:42.528
like a limiting belief and
 
00:29:42.567 --> 00:29:43.368
it's something for sure
 
00:29:43.388 --> 00:29:45.191
that I I know I was dealing
 
00:29:45.211 --> 00:29:46.471
with where I seemed to make
 
00:29:46.551 --> 00:29:47.432
everything harder than it
 
00:29:47.452 --> 00:29:49.394
needed to be but I was in
 
00:29:49.434 --> 00:29:50.315
my mind I kind of been
 
00:29:50.355 --> 00:29:51.215
programmed well it's just
 
00:29:51.296 --> 00:29:52.758
hard you know school's hard
 
00:29:53.137 --> 00:29:54.378
finding a job's hard the
 
00:29:54.659 --> 00:29:55.901
actual job will be hard all
 
00:29:55.921 --> 00:29:57.582
of these tasks are hard and
 
00:29:57.622 --> 00:29:58.643
so how much can we start
 
00:29:58.722 --> 00:29:59.844
reprogramming that and
 
00:29:59.884 --> 00:30:01.005
starting to find like a bit
 
00:30:01.045 --> 00:30:02.626
more joy and ease and peace
 
00:30:03.047 --> 00:30:04.929
within it um so I mean these
 
00:30:04.969 --> 00:30:05.929
things are easier said than
 
00:30:05.989 --> 00:30:07.089
done but I think it's
 
00:30:07.150 --> 00:30:08.490
really just the first step
 
00:30:08.550 --> 00:30:10.633
is to look at those clues
 
00:30:10.712 --> 00:30:11.894
whether it's signs from the
 
00:30:11.933 --> 00:30:13.255
body that you know oh my
 
00:30:13.315 --> 00:30:14.496
muscles are so tight my
 
00:30:14.516 --> 00:30:15.576
digestion's off I'm not
 
00:30:15.596 --> 00:30:16.978
sleeping well I'm kind of
 
00:30:17.018 --> 00:30:18.459
dreading I'm like dread
 
00:30:18.538 --> 00:30:19.240
there's like a sense of
 
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:20.780
dread going into this place
 
00:30:20.980 --> 00:30:23.061
or there's very specific um
 
00:30:24.042 --> 00:30:25.584
parts of the role that are
 
00:30:25.663 --> 00:30:26.825
you know creating like a
 
00:30:27.065 --> 00:30:28.306
pretty like visceral
 
00:30:28.346 --> 00:30:30.767
reaction in me and um over
 
00:30:30.807 --> 00:30:31.847
time seeing how we can
 
00:30:31.887 --> 00:30:32.828
start to switch that
 
00:30:32.868 --> 00:30:35.990
dynamic the working with
 
00:30:36.191 --> 00:30:38.152
entrepreneurs and those who
 
00:30:38.332 --> 00:30:40.272
are in that space of
 
00:30:42.134 --> 00:30:45.175
influencing a team it is
 
00:30:45.236 --> 00:30:46.336
like I always say that a
 
00:30:46.396 --> 00:30:47.577
business is a reflection of
 
00:30:47.597 --> 00:30:49.318
those who are managing or running it
 
00:30:50.250 --> 00:30:53.472
it really is and that it
 
00:30:53.512 --> 00:30:54.532
doesn't ever make sense to
 
00:30:54.554 --> 00:30:56.213
me in a global market where
 
00:30:56.233 --> 00:30:57.615
everyone wants to compete
 
00:30:58.236 --> 00:30:58.935
if you're really going to
 
00:30:58.976 --> 00:31:00.116
compete you need to have a
 
00:31:00.176 --> 00:31:01.698
strong team culture and
 
00:31:01.718 --> 00:31:02.778
that strong team culture
 
00:31:02.817 --> 00:31:03.598
starts with someone who's
 
00:31:03.679 --> 00:31:05.019
able to regulate themselves
 
00:31:05.038 --> 00:31:06.519
who's able to stay in
 
00:31:06.619 --> 00:31:07.820
executive functioning and
 
00:31:07.861 --> 00:31:08.681
that only can happen when
 
00:31:08.701 --> 00:31:09.521
you're down regulated
 
00:31:09.541 --> 00:31:10.201
that's when you get
 
00:31:10.261 --> 00:31:11.742
innovative creative ideas
 
00:31:12.063 --> 00:31:12.763
that higher part of the
 
00:31:12.784 --> 00:31:13.763
brain's not even on when
 
00:31:13.784 --> 00:31:15.144
you're stressed and so it
 
00:31:15.204 --> 00:31:17.926
doesn't ever make sense to me um
 
00:31:19.326 --> 00:31:20.147
But it's just because
 
00:31:20.167 --> 00:31:21.067
there's lack of education.
 
00:31:21.749 --> 00:31:24.990
This is a global thing that, you know,
 
00:31:25.010 --> 00:31:26.451
there's multiple beautiful
 
00:31:26.491 --> 00:31:27.692
people like yourself who
 
00:31:27.731 --> 00:31:29.053
are doing this education
 
00:31:29.113 --> 00:31:30.134
piece and starting to help
 
00:31:30.153 --> 00:31:31.773
people live in a different way.
 
00:31:32.134 --> 00:31:33.315
And if you can work with the leaders,
 
00:31:33.355 --> 00:31:34.256
work with the entrepreneurs
 
00:31:34.276 --> 00:31:35.396
and work with organizations
 
00:31:35.416 --> 00:31:37.377
where they can see a difference in their
 
00:31:38.077 --> 00:31:39.259
the innovation or their
 
00:31:39.378 --> 00:31:40.479
their team culture and
 
00:31:40.538 --> 00:31:42.559
especially now with the
 
00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:44.340
staying power having the
 
00:31:44.381 --> 00:31:47.363
ability to support the team
 
00:31:47.762 --> 00:31:49.784
in helping them manage
 
00:31:50.064 --> 00:31:50.923
because that's one of the
 
00:31:50.943 --> 00:31:53.266
biggest challenges for me
 
00:31:53.286 --> 00:31:56.126
being a leader is I am here
 
00:31:56.146 --> 00:31:57.807
to hold space not hold hands
 
00:31:59.041 --> 00:32:01.263
And doing my own nervous system work,
 
00:32:01.384 --> 00:32:02.384
doing my own, you know,
 
00:32:02.404 --> 00:32:04.486
as a high achiever kind of personality,
 
00:32:05.186 --> 00:32:07.387
I am loving making sure
 
00:32:07.407 --> 00:32:08.729
that I can regulate myself.
 
00:32:08.808 --> 00:32:10.730
It feels that's the true power.
 
00:32:10.891 --> 00:32:12.251
It's not power over all
 
00:32:12.271 --> 00:32:13.593
these things and pushing through.
 
00:32:14.133 --> 00:32:15.674
It's like I can recenter
 
00:32:15.694 --> 00:32:17.375
myself with practice.
 
00:32:17.415 --> 00:32:18.696
I'm not always perfect at it.
 
00:32:19.076 --> 00:32:21.618
But when you can do that,
 
00:32:22.098 --> 00:32:24.080
it gives you so much power.
 
00:32:24.260 --> 00:32:25.823
power to influence each
 
00:32:25.863 --> 00:32:27.324
other or others for the better.
 
00:32:27.864 --> 00:32:29.846
And the more the challenges,
 
00:32:30.287 --> 00:32:31.428
if you're working in a team
 
00:32:31.448 --> 00:32:33.829
that that's not, there's not an awareness,
 
00:32:33.869 --> 00:32:34.951
there's not an education
 
00:32:35.510 --> 00:32:37.232
and even deep understanding
 
00:32:37.292 --> 00:32:38.753
of why that's important.
 
00:32:39.134 --> 00:32:40.056
You will always be the
 
00:32:40.096 --> 00:32:41.317
person then holding space
 
00:32:41.336 --> 00:32:43.137
for your team as they are
 
00:32:43.338 --> 00:32:44.960
continually dysregulated
 
00:32:44.980 --> 00:32:45.800
and they're fearful of
 
00:32:46.101 --> 00:32:47.102
Or safety is an issue.
 
00:32:47.182 --> 00:32:48.202
And when safety is an issue
 
00:32:48.242 --> 00:32:49.304
in organizations,
 
00:32:49.744 --> 00:32:51.185
then they're more likely to
 
00:32:51.246 --> 00:32:52.186
leave because something
 
00:32:52.227 --> 00:32:52.886
else looks better.
 
00:32:52.926 --> 00:32:54.429
The grass is greener.
 
00:32:54.469 --> 00:32:56.089
That fight mode, the flight mode,
 
00:32:56.130 --> 00:32:57.211
I'm going to go over here now.
 
00:32:57.571 --> 00:33:00.173
And so I feel like it's so funny.
 
00:33:00.755 --> 00:33:02.717
We work with holistic practitioners.
 
00:33:02.757 --> 00:33:03.778
And a lot of people who are
 
00:33:03.817 --> 00:33:05.439
holistic healers or practitioners,
 
00:33:05.739 --> 00:33:07.020
there's a psychology to
 
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:08.241
You enter into this
 
00:33:08.261 --> 00:33:09.623
profession a lot of times
 
00:33:09.682 --> 00:33:10.983
because you want to heal yourself.
 
00:33:11.084 --> 00:33:11.923
There's something within
 
00:33:11.943 --> 00:33:13.685
yourself that needs, wants to be healed.
 
00:33:14.125 --> 00:33:16.146
And then you are working
 
00:33:16.166 --> 00:33:17.067
with people who have
 
00:33:17.488 --> 00:33:19.170
regulated nervous system issues.
 
00:33:19.230 --> 00:33:22.632
So I'd love to kind of move
 
00:33:22.692 --> 00:33:24.073
into if you're working with
 
00:33:24.554 --> 00:33:25.534
an entrepreneur or someone
 
00:33:25.554 --> 00:33:28.497
who's burned out or even their whole team,
 
00:33:28.916 --> 00:33:29.156
you know,
 
00:33:29.376 --> 00:33:31.959
how does the reprecision health work?
 
00:33:31.979 --> 00:33:32.680
Like what is the,
 
00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:34.642
process for working with you
 
00:33:34.662 --> 00:33:35.942
guys in your retreat spaces?
 
00:33:35.982 --> 00:33:37.825
Because there's a lot of
 
00:33:37.845 --> 00:33:39.247
different cool tools I know
 
00:33:39.406 --> 00:33:40.166
for working with this.
 
00:33:40.208 --> 00:33:41.568
So I'm just curious what
 
00:33:41.588 --> 00:33:42.970
that looks like and what
 
00:33:43.310 --> 00:33:44.592
the outcomes are for people
 
00:33:44.632 --> 00:33:45.333
you're working with.
 
00:33:45.472 --> 00:33:46.193
Yeah, yeah.
 
00:33:46.253 --> 00:33:46.795
Thanks for asking.
 
00:33:47.154 --> 00:33:49.477
So we really wanted to take
 
00:33:49.678 --> 00:33:50.759
a three hundred and sixty
 
00:33:50.798 --> 00:33:52.460
degree view of health.
 
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:53.521
I think a lot of
 
00:33:54.402 --> 00:33:55.923
practices and retreats and
 
00:33:55.942 --> 00:33:58.025
programs they often focus
 
00:33:58.045 --> 00:33:59.144
maybe more on the physical
 
00:33:59.265 --> 00:34:00.205
more on the mental we
 
00:34:00.226 --> 00:34:01.227
really wanted to encompass
 
00:34:01.247 --> 00:34:02.488
physical mental emotional
 
00:34:02.928 --> 00:34:04.229
nutritional and then this
 
00:34:04.288 --> 00:34:05.589
more like existential piece
 
00:34:06.369 --> 00:34:07.191
of how we exist in the
 
00:34:07.211 --> 00:34:09.231
world and combine it in one
 
00:34:09.271 --> 00:34:10.853
place and really connect
 
00:34:11.092 --> 00:34:12.353
the dots I think the
 
00:34:12.393 --> 00:34:13.235
nervous system piece in
 
00:34:13.275 --> 00:34:14.335
itself helps to connect a
 
00:34:14.355 --> 00:34:15.476
lot of dots but we wanted
 
00:34:15.496 --> 00:34:16.876
to connect the dots between
 
00:34:16.916 --> 00:34:18.177
those different fields
 
00:34:18.918 --> 00:34:19.978
And so the programs are
 
00:34:19.998 --> 00:34:21.878
based on neuroscience, psychology,
 
00:34:21.918 --> 00:34:22.679
functional medicine.
 
00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:25.659
We have an amazing team of scientists,
 
00:34:26.500 --> 00:34:28.940
chiropractor, functional health coach,
 
00:34:28.981 --> 00:34:29.501
therapists.
 
00:34:30.161 --> 00:34:33.842
And so we have a lot of modalities.
 
00:34:34.182 --> 00:34:34.882
We don't just sort of like
 
00:34:34.943 --> 00:34:36.684
throw them randomly at our guests.
 
00:34:36.704 --> 00:34:37.643
They really do work in a
 
00:34:37.664 --> 00:34:39.463
flow and synergistically.
 
00:34:40.264 --> 00:34:41.224
And really,
 
00:34:41.244 --> 00:34:44.005
there's three main phases where
 
00:34:44.385 --> 00:34:44.945
First of all,
 
00:34:44.965 --> 00:34:46.085
we're just working to unwind
 
00:34:46.126 --> 00:34:47.266
that stress response.
 
00:34:47.327 --> 00:34:49.106
So most people who find us,
 
00:34:49.586 --> 00:34:50.447
they are dealing with some
 
00:34:50.487 --> 00:34:51.748
level of burnout or
 
00:34:52.467 --> 00:34:53.228
struggling with stress
 
00:34:53.248 --> 00:34:54.588
management or have these
 
00:34:54.608 --> 00:34:55.869
symptoms that they're not
 
00:34:55.949 --> 00:34:57.128
really making progress with
 
00:34:57.369 --> 00:34:58.929
in any other way.
 
00:34:59.769 --> 00:35:01.090
So we want to be able to
 
00:35:01.230 --> 00:35:02.510
unwind that stress response,
 
00:35:02.530 --> 00:35:04.831
get out of the sympathetic state.
 
00:35:05.311 --> 00:35:06.271
at least a chronically
 
00:35:06.351 --> 00:35:07.411
activated sympathetic state.
 
00:35:07.431 --> 00:35:08.411
It's always good to have some.
 
00:35:09.112 --> 00:35:09.913
I just want to emphasize
 
00:35:09.932 --> 00:35:10.992
that because obviously
 
00:35:11.112 --> 00:35:12.094
we're not trying to just
 
00:35:12.114 --> 00:35:13.313
have a completely peaceful
 
00:35:13.333 --> 00:35:14.235
nervous system.
 
00:35:14.275 --> 00:35:15.094
We still need action.
 
00:35:15.135 --> 00:35:15.954
We still need movement,
 
00:35:16.335 --> 00:35:17.175
but we want it to be more
 
00:35:17.215 --> 00:35:18.556
balanced and be able to get
 
00:35:18.577 --> 00:35:20.016
into that recovery state too.
 
00:35:20.077 --> 00:35:20.856
So yeah,
 
00:35:20.896 --> 00:35:22.117
most people have been running in that
 
00:35:23.121 --> 00:35:24.661
of high gear of the
 
00:35:24.762 --> 00:35:25.862
sympathetic nervous system
 
00:35:25.902 --> 00:35:27.842
for quite a long time and
 
00:35:27.922 --> 00:35:29.242
so we have different tools
 
00:35:29.262 --> 00:35:30.943
to help unwind from that
 
00:35:31.523 --> 00:35:33.764
and then we get into more
 
00:35:33.784 --> 00:35:35.186
of like an activation piece
 
00:35:35.505 --> 00:35:37.427
so how do we start
 
00:35:37.527 --> 00:35:38.626
reprogramming a bit of that
 
00:35:38.706 --> 00:35:40.688
neural circuitry so that
 
00:35:40.748 --> 00:35:42.248
it's really going towards
 
00:35:42.289 --> 00:35:43.108
more of the life we want to
 
00:35:43.148 --> 00:35:44.248
create and the habits and
 
00:35:44.268 --> 00:35:45.610
behaviors we want to embody
 
00:35:46.190 --> 00:35:47.632
And then a kind of more
 
00:35:47.672 --> 00:35:49.733
expansion and integrative phase.
 
00:35:49.873 --> 00:35:51.356
So like deeper understanding
 
00:35:51.396 --> 00:35:52.317
and like putting all of the
 
00:35:52.336 --> 00:35:52.936
bits together.
 
00:35:53.577 --> 00:35:55.599
And so there's many
 
00:35:55.619 --> 00:35:57.081
modalities that fit into there.
 
00:35:57.222 --> 00:35:58.623
We combine education with
 
00:35:58.702 --> 00:36:00.164
more immersive experiences
 
00:36:00.224 --> 00:36:03.188
to really put the learning into action.
 
00:36:03.887 --> 00:36:04.889
I don't think there's any
 
00:36:05.110 --> 00:36:07.152
lack of information.
 
00:36:07.172 --> 00:36:07.992
People can go anywhere.
 
00:36:08.353 --> 00:36:09.673
The internet's incredible.
 
00:36:09.693 --> 00:36:10.994
You can find anything you want.
 
00:36:11.134 --> 00:36:12.034
And from the top
 
00:36:12.094 --> 00:36:13.534
universities and all of this research,
 
00:36:13.554 --> 00:36:14.956
there's no lack of information.
 
00:36:15.335 --> 00:36:16.317
But what can be more
 
00:36:16.336 --> 00:36:17.317
challenging is making it
 
00:36:17.356 --> 00:36:18.398
relevant to yourself and
 
00:36:18.418 --> 00:36:20.039
actually putting it into
 
00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:22.840
action and then really
 
00:36:23.139 --> 00:36:24.780
instigating more
 
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:26.262
consistency so that those
 
00:36:26.322 --> 00:36:27.322
neural connections are
 
00:36:27.362 --> 00:36:28.342
reprogramming and it's
 
00:36:28.382 --> 00:36:29.922
becoming more of a default habit.
 
00:36:30.623 --> 00:36:30.864
So yeah,
 
00:36:30.884 --> 00:36:32.905
we do a kind of overview of the
 
00:36:32.945 --> 00:36:34.666
nervous system, why it's important,
 
00:36:35.065 --> 00:36:36.505
the two branches, the sympathetic,
 
00:36:36.525 --> 00:36:37.427
the parasympathetic.
 
00:36:38.648 --> 00:36:39.487
Some of the unwinding
 
00:36:39.568 --> 00:36:40.989
exercises include TRE,
 
00:36:41.110 --> 00:36:42.311
it's like tension trauma
 
00:36:42.331 --> 00:36:43.371
release exercises.
 
00:36:44.273 --> 00:36:45.673
We also do it,
 
00:36:45.693 --> 00:36:47.815
call it sympathetic dominance unwinding.
 
00:36:47.896 --> 00:36:49.476
So some of those points that
 
00:36:49.536 --> 00:36:51.498
get really tense from that
 
00:36:51.518 --> 00:36:52.539
chronic stress state,
 
00:36:52.579 --> 00:36:54.081
how we can start to unwind those.
 
00:36:55.322 --> 00:36:55.862
In the background,
 
00:36:55.902 --> 00:36:56.222
we have an
 
00:36:56.302 --> 00:36:57.423
anti-inflammatory diet
 
00:36:57.463 --> 00:36:59.045
throughout the whole retreat,
 
00:36:59.085 --> 00:37:00.067
which is always a big,
 
00:37:00.306 --> 00:37:01.288
big hit with guests.
 
00:37:01.307 --> 00:37:03.329
It's like one of their favorite parts.
 
00:37:05.476 --> 00:37:07.217
Um, as you get into the, um,
 
00:37:07.237 --> 00:37:09.757
we also have massage, um, as you know,
 
00:37:09.777 --> 00:37:12.898
all of the benefits, um, infrared, uh,
 
00:37:12.918 --> 00:37:14.018
photobiomodulation,
 
00:37:14.038 --> 00:37:15.239
which is fancy word for the
 
00:37:15.259 --> 00:37:16.259
red light therapy.
 
00:37:16.458 --> 00:37:17.278
And, um,
 
00:37:17.938 --> 00:37:20.239
we go more into the activation
 
00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:22.940
using ice bath and the Tamaskal.
 
00:37:22.981 --> 00:37:23.880
So Tamaskal is like a
 
00:37:23.900 --> 00:37:24.960
traditional sweat lodge.
 
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:26.722
Ice baths are everywhere and
 
00:37:26.782 --> 00:37:27.762
they have incredible
 
00:37:27.802 --> 00:37:28.902
physiological benefits.
 
00:37:29.501 --> 00:37:31.523
We do use it in a bit of a different way.
 
00:37:32.123 --> 00:37:33.344
And our goal with our ice
 
00:37:33.384 --> 00:37:35.485
bath is to actually really feel,
 
00:37:36.166 --> 00:37:37.108
get more in touch with the
 
00:37:37.128 --> 00:37:39.170
body and focus more on neuroception,
 
00:37:39.329 --> 00:37:40.751
which is the body's ability
 
00:37:40.811 --> 00:37:43.572
to predict safety or detect
 
00:37:43.592 --> 00:37:47.277
safety and danger in a given situation.
 
00:37:47.836 --> 00:37:49.358
So often it's neuroception
 
00:37:49.378 --> 00:37:50.840
that leads some of our
 
00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:52.360
responses to kind of have
 
00:37:52.380 --> 00:37:53.722
like a mismatch between our
 
00:37:53.762 --> 00:37:55.023
rational mind and what's
 
00:37:55.063 --> 00:37:56.844
going on in our nervous system.
 
00:37:56.943 --> 00:37:58.666
And again, it comes from that programming.
 
00:37:58.746 --> 00:38:00.867
So how can we really get in
 
00:38:00.907 --> 00:38:02.748
touch with that and with
 
00:38:02.768 --> 00:38:05.690
that process and then also
 
00:38:06.070 --> 00:38:07.211
learn to regulate the
 
00:38:07.231 --> 00:38:08.072
nervous system in an
 
00:38:08.172 --> 00:38:09.414
uncomfortable environment,
 
00:38:09.494 --> 00:38:10.594
but also in a really safe
 
00:38:10.635 --> 00:38:11.815
and supportive environment?
 
00:38:13.282 --> 00:38:15.864
And we also have movement
 
00:38:15.885 --> 00:38:16.905
classes every day,
 
00:38:16.945 --> 00:38:18.786
quite specific types of movement,
 
00:38:19.106 --> 00:38:21.007
functional movement, resistance training,
 
00:38:21.108 --> 00:38:23.588
mobility, movement for neuro performance.
 
00:38:23.608 --> 00:38:26.050
So really connecting the hemispheres.
 
00:38:26.329 --> 00:38:29.331
We put a big focus on the mitochondria,
 
00:38:29.452 --> 00:38:31.253
so they are producing
 
00:38:31.860 --> 00:38:33.322
the energy currency of our body.
 
00:38:33.362 --> 00:38:34.742
So the better they're working,
 
00:38:34.782 --> 00:38:36.123
the more energy we're going to have,
 
00:38:36.164 --> 00:38:37.284
the more we're able to
 
00:38:37.324 --> 00:38:39.766
actually be restored and we
 
00:38:39.786 --> 00:38:41.706
get the opportunity to rest and recover.
 
00:38:41.827 --> 00:38:43.728
So it's a big focus on the mitochondria.
 
00:38:45.005 --> 00:38:46.925
We also do a gut healing protocol.
 
00:38:47.005 --> 00:38:49.326
So there's just such a big
 
00:38:49.346 --> 00:38:51.965
connection between the gut and the brain.
 
00:38:52.085 --> 00:38:52.585
Fortunately,
 
00:38:52.626 --> 00:38:54.407
this is becoming more common knowledge.
 
00:38:54.606 --> 00:38:54.806
I mean,
 
00:38:54.827 --> 00:38:56.246
I think the gut biome is absolutely
 
00:38:56.286 --> 00:38:56.867
fascinating.
 
00:38:57.407 --> 00:38:58.768
So we do our own protocol of
 
00:38:59.588 --> 00:39:00.367
helping to get rid of the
 
00:39:00.387 --> 00:39:02.407
pathogenic bacteria and parasites,
 
00:39:02.467 --> 00:39:03.807
helping to heal the gut lining,
 
00:39:04.208 --> 00:39:05.708
which tends to become
 
00:39:05.929 --> 00:39:07.509
damaged or more permeable
 
00:39:08.248 --> 00:39:09.108
when we're under chronic
 
00:39:09.148 --> 00:39:10.090
periods of stress,
 
00:39:10.590 --> 00:39:11.809
along with other things.
 
00:39:12.690 --> 00:39:13.791
and then helping to
 
00:39:14.052 --> 00:39:15.514
repopulate with good
 
00:39:15.554 --> 00:39:17.458
bacteria using prebiotics and
 
00:39:19.068 --> 00:39:21.068
other other good stuff and
 
00:39:21.088 --> 00:39:23.550
uh yeah in addition we have
 
00:39:23.789 --> 00:39:25.210
um an opportunity to
 
00:39:25.250 --> 00:39:26.951
actually really process the
 
00:39:27.010 --> 00:39:29.110
emotions that come up often
 
00:39:29.152 --> 00:39:29.972
these emotions that have
 
00:39:29.992 --> 00:39:32.353
just been kind of uh put in
 
00:39:32.373 --> 00:39:33.873
a box and stored for many
 
00:39:33.932 --> 00:39:35.293
years I would say one of
 
00:39:35.313 --> 00:39:36.353
the biggest takeaways for
 
00:39:36.393 --> 00:39:38.235
our guests is oh actually
 
00:39:38.355 --> 00:39:39.434
so many of these behaviors
 
00:39:39.474 --> 00:39:40.414
are just coming from a
 
00:39:40.494 --> 00:39:41.615
repressed emotional issue
 
00:39:41.635 --> 00:39:42.615
that's just never been
 
00:39:42.635 --> 00:39:43.956
dealt with or just
 
00:39:44.077 --> 00:39:47.318
completely compartmentalized um and
 
00:39:48.137 --> 00:39:49.139
It's really fascinating.
 
00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:50.699
We get a good balance of men
 
00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:52.442
and women coming on our programs,
 
00:39:52.461 --> 00:39:53.402
which is awesome because
 
00:39:53.461 --> 00:39:55.284
retreats tend to be more female dominant.
 
00:39:55.403 --> 00:39:56.945
And I must say the men
 
00:39:57.125 --> 00:39:57.945
usually have the biggest
 
00:39:57.965 --> 00:39:59.746
transformations out of anybody.
 
00:40:00.188 --> 00:40:01.748
Most of the really potent
 
00:40:01.789 --> 00:40:04.751
stories I can think of are from men.
 
00:40:04.831 --> 00:40:06.652
And I think it's because they generally
 
00:40:07.413 --> 00:40:08.353
they're even better at
 
00:40:08.414 --> 00:40:10.195
compartmentalizing these things.
 
00:40:10.255 --> 00:40:11.695
And so being able to bring
 
00:40:11.735 --> 00:40:13.097
that to the surface and not
 
00:40:13.137 --> 00:40:15.119
feel shame or around being
 
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:16.239
vulnerable and having that
 
00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:17.920
opportunity to be
 
00:40:17.940 --> 00:40:18.721
vulnerable is really
 
00:40:18.760 --> 00:40:20.302
powerful and also having
 
00:40:20.322 --> 00:40:21.864
the support of a group.
 
00:40:22.423 --> 00:40:23.284
And I think a lot of these
 
00:40:23.324 --> 00:40:24.827
words would make some people cringe.
 
00:40:24.887 --> 00:40:25.748
And it's so funny because
 
00:40:25.768 --> 00:40:26.969
most people don't want to
 
00:40:27.889 --> 00:40:29.451
express emotion or be in a group.
 
00:40:30.793 --> 00:40:31.753
We definitely don't do it in
 
00:40:31.793 --> 00:40:35.097
this sort of like holding hands way.
 
00:40:35.157 --> 00:40:36.818
But I think that puts people
 
00:40:36.958 --> 00:40:39.001
off and is usually the biggest, biggest,
 
00:40:39.101 --> 00:40:39.521
biggest,
 
00:40:39.561 --> 00:40:41.304
most impactful part of the program.
 
00:40:41.824 --> 00:40:42.985
is that co-regulation.
 
00:40:43.005 --> 00:40:44.025
They don't realize.
 
00:40:44.186 --> 00:40:44.706
Yeah.
 
00:40:44.746 --> 00:40:47.527
The brain, the brain is, we are animals.
 
00:40:47.847 --> 00:40:48.809
I tell people all the time,
 
00:40:49.349 --> 00:40:50.250
there's so much of the
 
00:40:50.289 --> 00:40:51.289
people going on their own
 
00:40:51.451 --> 00:40:52.751
hermit healing journey.
 
00:40:52.771 --> 00:40:53.492
They're internal.
 
00:40:53.532 --> 00:40:54.632
I'm going to do this by myself.
 
00:40:54.652 --> 00:40:55.693
I'm going to figure it out.
 
00:40:56.233 --> 00:40:58.856
And then you are still, like you said,
 
00:40:59.576 --> 00:41:00.456
if you're able to
 
00:41:00.476 --> 00:41:02.318
co-regulate by watching someone else,
 
00:41:02.398 --> 00:41:03.398
looking in someone's eyes,
 
00:41:03.539 --> 00:41:05.599
feeling a connection that we're human,
 
00:41:05.619 --> 00:41:06.661
you're safe too.
 
00:41:07.041 --> 00:41:08.681
There's a tribal space that
 
00:41:08.842 --> 00:41:11.304
that's very deep within our primal being.
 
00:41:11.724 --> 00:41:12.625
and if you don't have a
 
00:41:12.784 --> 00:41:14.326
sense of connection you're
 
00:41:14.346 --> 00:41:15.186
going to be trying to do
 
00:41:15.246 --> 00:41:16.447
all the symptom that all
 
00:41:16.467 --> 00:41:17.467
the regulation techniques
 
00:41:17.507 --> 00:41:18.268
and they will work to a
 
00:41:18.307 --> 00:41:20.530
degree but that is the most foundational
 
00:41:21.429 --> 00:41:23.250
hands down, hands down in my experience.
 
00:41:23.269 --> 00:41:23.949
So I love to hear that
 
00:41:23.969 --> 00:41:24.849
that's what you're also seeing.
 
00:41:24.929 --> 00:41:25.369
Yeah, well,
 
00:41:25.389 --> 00:41:26.230
I think that's one of the
 
00:41:26.250 --> 00:41:27.670
challenging parts as humans
 
00:41:27.710 --> 00:41:28.630
can be one of the best
 
00:41:28.690 --> 00:41:29.751
things and the worst things
 
00:41:29.771 --> 00:41:30.871
for the nervous system, right?
 
00:41:30.891 --> 00:41:31.030
I mean,
 
00:41:31.090 --> 00:41:32.411
anybody who's experienced any kind
 
00:41:32.431 --> 00:41:32.851
of trauma,
 
00:41:32.931 --> 00:41:34.112
often it will have that hyper
 
00:41:34.152 --> 00:41:35.472
independence because it's
 
00:41:35.492 --> 00:41:36.492
very hard to trust.
 
00:41:36.672 --> 00:41:39.512
And again, it's that neuroception gauging,
 
00:41:39.592 --> 00:41:41.014
I know this is dangerous, actually,
 
00:41:41.034 --> 00:41:41.494
it will just
 
00:41:42.014 --> 00:41:43.914
isolate over here and, you know,
 
00:41:43.934 --> 00:41:44.994
figure it out ourselves.
 
00:41:45.434 --> 00:41:47.536
And so being able to, again, in a very,
 
00:41:47.596 --> 00:41:48.856
you know, safe, supportive environment,
 
00:41:49.257 --> 00:41:54.518
retrain that, that instinct is, is really,
 
00:41:54.538 --> 00:41:55.318
really powerful.
 
00:41:55.918 --> 00:41:56.498
And also,
 
00:41:56.559 --> 00:41:57.900
it's a group of people coming together,
 
00:41:58.139 --> 00:41:59.920
wanting to understand themselves better,
 
00:42:00.481 --> 00:42:01.521
and wanting to, you know,
 
00:42:01.581 --> 00:42:02.900
bark on this work.
 
00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:04.382
So it's, there's just a
 
00:42:05.498 --> 00:42:06.538
What I love is that we do
 
00:42:06.557 --> 00:42:07.679
get a lot of people from
 
00:42:07.699 --> 00:42:09.480
many different backgrounds, ages,
 
00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:10.159
everything.
 
00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:11.601
And there's just this common
 
00:42:11.641 --> 00:42:15.081
humanity piece where no
 
00:42:15.121 --> 00:42:17.402
matter what we look like
 
00:42:17.422 --> 00:42:18.543
we're going through on the outside,
 
00:42:18.563 --> 00:42:19.963
there's actually very
 
00:42:20.003 --> 00:42:21.784
similar things happening underneath.
 
00:42:21.844 --> 00:42:23.244
And so it's just being able
 
00:42:23.284 --> 00:42:25.565
to feel seen and understood,
 
00:42:26.326 --> 00:42:27.606
to have the opportunity for
 
00:42:27.646 --> 00:42:28.387
these things to come up,
 
00:42:28.447 --> 00:42:29.788
acknowledge them and process them.
 
00:42:30.307 --> 00:42:31.128
It's just not something that
 
00:42:31.148 --> 00:42:33.309
we really get to do in everyday life.
 
00:42:33.590 --> 00:42:35.931
You know, I was saying welcome, like,
 
00:42:36.070 --> 00:42:37.931
you know,
 
00:42:37.992 --> 00:42:39.132
when we're a lot of our
 
00:42:39.152 --> 00:42:40.693
interactions are kind of like, hi,
 
00:42:40.913 --> 00:42:41.393
how are you?
 
00:42:41.532 --> 00:42:41.992
I'm fine.
 
00:42:42.414 --> 00:42:42.614
Cool.
 
00:42:43.574 --> 00:42:44.594
I'm fine is like one of the
 
00:42:44.635 --> 00:42:47.755
biggest lies told out there.
 
00:42:47.795 --> 00:42:48.615
As deep as we go.
 
00:42:48.655 --> 00:42:49.297
So I'm fine.
 
00:42:49.356 --> 00:42:49.936
I'm good.
 
00:42:50.565 --> 00:42:51.586
And we don't often get an
 
00:42:51.626 --> 00:42:53.748
opportunity to go much deeper than that.
 
00:42:53.907 --> 00:42:55.088
And yeah, deep connection.
 
00:42:55.168 --> 00:42:57.449
It's just incredibly healing.
 
00:42:57.849 --> 00:42:59.869
And so that's why the
 
00:42:59.949 --> 00:43:00.990
program was designed the
 
00:43:01.010 --> 00:43:01.990
way it was designed,
 
00:43:02.030 --> 00:43:03.112
was to have that
 
00:43:03.132 --> 00:43:04.552
opportunity where we all go
 
00:43:04.572 --> 00:43:05.793
through this process together.
 
00:43:05.853 --> 00:43:06.954
And there's difficult things.
 
00:43:06.994 --> 00:43:08.614
We do it together to be able
 
00:43:08.655 --> 00:43:10.876
to overcome it and support
 
00:43:10.896 --> 00:43:13.177
each other and come out the other side.
 
00:43:13.797 --> 00:43:14.396
But yeah,
 
00:43:14.416 --> 00:43:15.657
there's many other modalities
 
00:43:15.697 --> 00:43:16.378
mixed in there,
 
00:43:16.458 --> 00:43:17.699
but it all kind of works in
 
00:43:17.739 --> 00:43:19.438
with that flow.
 
00:43:19.659 --> 00:43:20.460
And I mean, really,
 
00:43:20.860 --> 00:43:22.561
we're just giving our
 
00:43:22.740 --> 00:43:24.260
guests the opportunity and
 
00:43:24.300 --> 00:43:25.481
the space and some of the
 
00:43:25.501 --> 00:43:29.923
tools just to tap back into themselves.
 
00:43:30.184 --> 00:43:31.083
They're doing the work.
 
00:43:31.784 --> 00:43:33.224
They're doing the work to be
 
00:43:33.264 --> 00:43:37.126
able to really change the
 
00:43:37.166 --> 00:43:38.606
neural circuitry towards
 
00:43:38.626 --> 00:43:40.347
something that they want to create.
 
00:43:40.447 --> 00:43:40.867
And yeah,
 
00:43:40.887 --> 00:43:42.608
the results have been actually...
 
00:43:43.896 --> 00:43:45.838
They far exceeded my expectations.
 
00:43:46.579 --> 00:43:47.960
When I started these programs,
 
00:43:48.041 --> 00:43:49.202
it was just to be able to
 
00:43:49.242 --> 00:43:50.483
provide the information,
 
00:43:50.603 --> 00:43:52.626
and I felt like it's just
 
00:43:52.666 --> 00:43:53.987
important things to share.
 
00:43:54.628 --> 00:43:55.528
And the reason we've kept
 
00:43:55.568 --> 00:43:57.371
going all these years is because,
 
00:43:57.590 --> 00:43:58.492
and it has been hard,
 
00:43:58.811 --> 00:44:00.153
running a business is always hard,
 
00:44:00.733 --> 00:44:02.695
and just being able to keep going,
 
00:44:02.715 --> 00:44:03.257
keep going,
 
00:44:03.317 --> 00:44:04.777
the motivation was seeing the
 
00:44:04.818 --> 00:44:05.940
results of the guests.
 
00:44:06.659 --> 00:44:08.121
And it's just been really beautiful.
 
00:44:08.362 --> 00:44:09.061
And I mean,
 
00:44:09.081 --> 00:44:09.762
they've just got some
 
00:44:09.922 --> 00:44:11.204
incredible stories and
 
00:44:11.503 --> 00:44:13.626
reviews and I'm still in
 
00:44:13.666 --> 00:44:15.146
touch with even the
 
00:44:15.186 --> 00:44:17.168
participants from the very first program.
 
00:44:17.228 --> 00:44:18.469
And it's just so cool to see
 
00:44:18.530 --> 00:44:20.070
how their lives have
 
00:44:20.110 --> 00:44:21.751
changed post program and
 
00:44:22.353 --> 00:44:23.813
what they've really
 
00:44:24.173 --> 00:44:25.715
embodied and taken into
 
00:44:26.096 --> 00:44:27.117
their everyday life.
 
00:44:27.277 --> 00:44:28.518
And so, yeah, really,
 
00:44:28.998 --> 00:44:29.858
it's been a beautiful journey.
 
00:44:30.532 --> 00:44:30.751
Yeah,
 
00:44:30.831 --> 00:44:32.974
it's what it was keep the motivation
 
00:44:33.014 --> 00:44:35.094
to see that that then how
 
00:44:35.155 --> 00:44:36.635
much that impact you have
 
00:44:36.715 --> 00:44:38.077
no idea the far reaches of
 
00:44:38.097 --> 00:44:39.498
that impact of one person.
 
00:44:41.679 --> 00:44:43.882
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
 
00:44:44.262 --> 00:44:44.842
Absolutely.
 
00:44:44.902 --> 00:44:46.744
So I'd love to love I'm kind of curious,
 
00:44:46.824 --> 00:44:47.943
is your program something
 
00:44:47.983 --> 00:44:49.125
that you work with everyone
 
00:44:49.164 --> 00:44:50.726
before they all meet together?
 
00:44:51.806 --> 00:44:53.688
or it's just to meet for you
 
00:44:53.708 --> 00:44:54.630
know in person for the
 
00:44:54.670 --> 00:44:55.811
journey with with this
 
00:44:55.851 --> 00:44:56.992
group how does that work
 
00:44:57.472 --> 00:44:58.793
yeah we'll meet in person
 
00:44:59.393 --> 00:45:00.795
on the start date and we go
 
00:45:00.815 --> 00:45:01.956
from there everybody's on
 
00:45:01.976 --> 00:45:04.657
the same level and um yeah
 
00:45:04.677 --> 00:45:05.458
so we go through that
 
00:45:05.498 --> 00:45:07.380
process and then there's
 
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:08.461
opportunities to stay in
 
00:45:08.501 --> 00:45:10.543
touch post post program and
 
00:45:10.643 --> 00:45:11.724
it's great to see that our
 
00:45:11.885 --> 00:45:13.226
guests meet up in person
 
00:45:13.326 --> 00:45:14.766
afterwards and I've met up
 
00:45:14.786 --> 00:45:15.447
with quite a few of our
 
00:45:15.487 --> 00:45:16.768
guests post program too
 
00:45:16.789 --> 00:45:17.769
which is really awesome
 
00:45:18.130 --> 00:45:19.570
and you're in mexico and
 
00:45:19.610 --> 00:45:21.132
portugal for these journeys
 
00:45:21.172 --> 00:45:22.353
for these transformational
 
00:45:22.393 --> 00:45:24.414
journeys as a group and I'm
 
00:45:24.454 --> 00:45:25.956
curious as far as how long
 
00:45:26.016 --> 00:45:27.197
is it when and when does
 
00:45:27.217 --> 00:45:29.099
your next one start yeah
 
00:45:29.219 --> 00:45:30.420
our home base is
 
00:45:30.460 --> 00:45:31.681
technically in mexico on
 
00:45:31.721 --> 00:45:33.081
the west coast of mexico an
 
00:45:33.161 --> 00:45:34.262
hour north of puerto
 
00:45:34.282 --> 00:45:36.184
vallarta beautiful location
 
00:45:36.204 --> 00:45:38.085
I mean it's paradise it's
 
00:45:38.206 --> 00:45:40.027
right on the ocean uh
 
00:45:40.168 --> 00:45:41.588
beautiful ocean view just
 
00:45:41.608 --> 00:45:42.489
incredible property
 
00:45:43.210 --> 00:45:46.510
And we run all year round in Mexico.
 
00:45:46.630 --> 00:45:48.210
So the next program actually
 
00:45:48.231 --> 00:45:49.731
starts tomorrow in Mexico.
 
00:45:49.791 --> 00:45:50.452
It is sold out.
 
00:45:52.813 --> 00:45:54.413
Yeah, they're usually sold out.
 
00:45:55.072 --> 00:45:56.813
And so, yeah,
 
00:45:56.833 --> 00:45:57.833
there's a continuous stream
 
00:45:57.853 --> 00:45:58.653
of programs there.
 
00:45:58.713 --> 00:46:00.614
We run five, ten day,
 
00:46:00.675 --> 00:46:01.454
and then we have some
 
00:46:01.494 --> 00:46:04.036
twenty one day programs sprinkled in.
 
00:46:04.835 --> 00:46:05.157
Obviously,
 
00:46:05.177 --> 00:46:07.179
the longer program generally
 
00:46:07.219 --> 00:46:08.940
leads to much bigger transformations,
 
00:46:09.021 --> 00:46:10.402
but five days is definitely
 
00:46:10.422 --> 00:46:11.344
better than no days.
 
00:46:11.423 --> 00:46:13.045
We've seen really cool
 
00:46:13.065 --> 00:46:13.987
transformations come out of
 
00:46:14.027 --> 00:46:14.929
just five days.
 
00:46:15.228 --> 00:46:16.269
I was even skeptical of the
 
00:46:16.309 --> 00:46:17.411
five days at the beginning,
 
00:46:17.472 --> 00:46:18.532
but it's been cool to see.
 
00:46:19.514 --> 00:46:22.797
And we have an event starting on the
 
00:46:24.099 --> 00:46:25.740
in September in Portugal.
 
00:46:26.461 --> 00:46:28.023
So that's one of our bigger events.
 
00:46:28.324 --> 00:46:31.248
We'll actually have up to fifty guests,
 
00:46:32.048 --> 00:46:33.570
whereas in Mexico we have
 
00:46:33.610 --> 00:46:34.612
smaller group sizes,
 
00:46:34.652 --> 00:46:35.693
around fifteen people.
 
00:46:36.153 --> 00:46:37.394
But the fifty people is a
 
00:46:37.434 --> 00:46:39.317
pretty cool opportunity
 
00:46:39.356 --> 00:46:40.458
because it's so much energy.
 
00:46:40.898 --> 00:46:42.599
When we were talking about co-regulation,
 
00:46:42.659 --> 00:46:43.581
bringing that many people
 
00:46:43.621 --> 00:46:44.581
together that are just
 
00:46:44.661 --> 00:46:46.182
really enthusiastic about
 
00:46:46.222 --> 00:46:47.923
these tools and just want
 
00:46:47.943 --> 00:46:50.786
to create more in their lives.
 
00:46:51.425 --> 00:46:53.788
It's quite euphoric.
 
00:46:53.827 --> 00:46:54.909
I'm really excited for it.
 
00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:57.902
Yeah, that's fantastic.
 
00:46:58.262 --> 00:46:59.603
And so as far as your
 
00:46:59.664 --> 00:47:02.266
journey goes with working
 
00:47:02.347 --> 00:47:03.688
in this industry,
 
00:47:04.929 --> 00:47:06.110
what do you hope for the
 
00:47:06.130 --> 00:47:08.853
future of burnout recovery
 
00:47:09.054 --> 00:47:10.496
and spaces like this?
 
00:47:10.576 --> 00:47:11.597
What do you see happening?
 
00:47:11.617 --> 00:47:13.059
What is the emerging trends
 
00:47:13.079 --> 00:47:14.059
or what are you hoping to see?
 
00:47:14.659 --> 00:47:14.860
Yeah,
 
00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:16.641
I think the awareness piece is just
 
00:47:16.681 --> 00:47:17.503
so important.
 
00:47:17.563 --> 00:47:18.824
Like a lot of these tools
 
00:47:18.864 --> 00:47:20.545
can be incorporated into
 
00:47:20.684 --> 00:47:22.606
typical medical practices.
 
00:47:22.887 --> 00:47:24.309
I think it's hard when
 
00:47:24.329 --> 00:47:25.128
you've got a ten minute
 
00:47:25.469 --> 00:47:27.831
visit to be able to go very deep,
 
00:47:28.271 --> 00:47:29.132
but at least being able to
 
00:47:29.152 --> 00:47:30.554
provide some of the resources.
 
00:47:31.974 --> 00:47:32.614
some of the things we
 
00:47:32.635 --> 00:47:33.835
provide on site like QEG
 
00:47:33.876 --> 00:47:34.856
brain mapping your feedback
 
00:47:34.996 --> 00:47:36.297
that like it's expensive
 
00:47:36.317 --> 00:47:38.038
equipment it's a bit more
 
00:47:38.057 --> 00:47:39.918
complicated to deliver but
 
00:47:39.958 --> 00:47:40.918
there's other pieces that
 
00:47:40.938 --> 00:47:41.579
are just very much
 
00:47:41.659 --> 00:47:42.900
educational just
 
00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:44.701
highlighting like we're
 
00:47:44.721 --> 00:47:45.661
saying how the operating
 
00:47:45.681 --> 00:47:47.382
system works what can be
 
00:47:47.422 --> 00:47:49.523
done to reprogram it and
 
00:47:49.563 --> 00:47:50.663
really a lot of it is just
 
00:47:50.722 --> 00:47:52.063
that awareness change in
 
00:47:52.103 --> 00:47:53.425
perception and consistency
 
00:47:53.784 --> 00:47:54.824
like it's completely free
 
00:47:55.045 --> 00:47:56.065
and it just doesn't take
 
00:47:56.106 --> 00:47:57.547
much and one of the most
 
00:47:57.606 --> 00:47:58.867
powerful things to regulate
 
00:47:58.887 --> 00:48:00.427
the nervous system is our breath
 
00:48:01.028 --> 00:48:02.554
which is completely free and
 
00:48:02.594 --> 00:48:03.637
very quick and easy.
 
00:48:04.280 --> 00:48:05.362
And so just having a bit of
 
00:48:05.503 --> 00:48:06.527
awareness around that
 
00:48:08.996 --> 00:48:09.856
you know, that helps.
 
00:48:09.876 --> 00:48:11.597
It's like, it helps so much.
 
00:48:12.038 --> 00:48:13.318
So I think being able to
 
00:48:13.478 --> 00:48:17.782
bring in some of these tools to at least,
 
00:48:17.802 --> 00:48:18.601
you know,
 
00:48:18.621 --> 00:48:19.483
provide the information
 
00:48:19.503 --> 00:48:21.083
awareness around them and
 
00:48:21.523 --> 00:48:22.684
for the medical professionals,
 
00:48:22.724 --> 00:48:23.965
healthcare professionals to
 
00:48:24.626 --> 00:48:26.387
be able to incorporate and
 
00:48:26.688 --> 00:48:28.668
not just default to, you know,
 
00:48:28.708 --> 00:48:30.070
he has a pill, he's a surgery,
 
00:48:30.210 --> 00:48:31.431
he's a really intense
 
00:48:31.451 --> 00:48:34.253
diagnosis that maybe isn't actually true.
 
00:48:35.253 --> 00:48:36.313
And so that kind of next
 
00:48:36.353 --> 00:48:38.596
level of treating more chronic.
 
00:48:39.496 --> 00:48:40.536
issues, if anything,
 
00:48:40.577 --> 00:48:42.858
maybe a split we need to see, okay, well,
 
00:48:43.179 --> 00:48:44.681
medicine as it is,
 
00:48:44.701 --> 00:48:46.362
is fantastic with acute issues,
 
00:48:46.442 --> 00:48:48.244
but do we need to really
 
00:48:48.284 --> 00:48:49.945
find a better solution and
 
00:48:50.405 --> 00:48:52.666
education around more chronic conditions,
 
00:48:53.228 --> 00:48:54.469
which obviously takes time
 
00:48:54.509 --> 00:48:56.391
and acceptance and it's a
 
00:48:56.471 --> 00:48:57.570
very long process.
 
00:48:57.632 --> 00:48:58.952
But in the meantime,
 
00:48:59.032 --> 00:49:00.653
I think taking the initiative,
 
00:49:01.255 --> 00:49:02.255
which can be challenging
 
00:49:02.295 --> 00:49:04.858
when there's time constraints, but
 
00:49:05.737 --> 00:49:06.838
it doesn't take too long to
 
00:49:06.878 --> 00:49:08.398
do some research into some
 
00:49:08.438 --> 00:49:09.239
of these themes,
 
00:49:09.418 --> 00:49:11.519
understand some basic tools
 
00:49:11.559 --> 00:49:12.500
that can be helpful.
 
00:49:13.139 --> 00:49:16.922
And again, being the CEO of our health,
 
00:49:16.981 --> 00:49:20.262
not necessarily taking one
 
00:49:20.282 --> 00:49:22.463
doctor's diagnosis as that, okay,
 
00:49:22.563 --> 00:49:24.784
that's it now, that's the only truth.
 
00:49:25.943 --> 00:49:27.945
I think that that's a really key
 
00:49:28.485 --> 00:49:29.226
key piece,
 
00:49:29.806 --> 00:49:31.088
which I think it's nice to be
 
00:49:31.150 --> 00:49:33.353
able to just believe that someone, okay,
 
00:49:33.373 --> 00:49:34.233
well, that's just how it is.
 
00:49:35.076 --> 00:49:36.858
But having this sort of stubbornness,
 
00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:39.463
or the tenacity, I guess,
 
00:49:39.483 --> 00:49:40.523
to be able to keep
 
00:49:40.583 --> 00:49:42.067
researching and figuring things out.
 
00:49:42.797 --> 00:49:43.416
Yeah,
 
00:49:43.697 --> 00:49:46.157
you're taking more of an approach of
 
00:49:46.197 --> 00:49:47.219
becoming a partner with
 
00:49:47.259 --> 00:49:47.938
your doctor and your
 
00:49:47.958 --> 00:49:48.938
healthcare providers where
 
00:49:49.018 --> 00:49:50.780
you have the awareness of the self.
 
00:49:51.099 --> 00:49:52.619
Because the more aware you are of yourself,
 
00:49:52.659 --> 00:49:53.681
the more you can bring more
 
00:49:53.721 --> 00:49:54.601
information to the
 
00:49:54.621 --> 00:49:55.260
providers and their
 
00:49:55.340 --> 00:49:56.541
expertise of how they can
 
00:49:56.581 --> 00:49:58.242
help you and educating you.
 
00:49:58.302 --> 00:49:59.242
And not everybody has the
 
00:49:59.302 --> 00:50:00.702
time or space on their
 
00:50:00.722 --> 00:50:01.922
healing journey to go down
 
00:50:01.963 --> 00:50:03.344
in a rabbit hole like you have.
 
00:50:03.824 --> 00:50:05.465
or like I have and that's
 
00:50:05.505 --> 00:50:06.907
why you go to people who
 
00:50:06.947 --> 00:50:07.989
have created programs like
 
00:50:08.009 --> 00:50:10.291
this so you don't have to
 
00:50:10.331 --> 00:50:11.373
do it you don't have to do
 
00:50:11.393 --> 00:50:12.974
it by yourself you know and
 
00:50:12.994 --> 00:50:14.237
there's so many new tools
 
00:50:14.277 --> 00:50:15.699
coming out like I love
 
00:50:16.018 --> 00:50:17.601
neurofeedback I love the
 
00:50:17.621 --> 00:50:19.083
capacity and the potential for
 
00:50:19.882 --> 00:50:21.184
even just plant medicine,
 
00:50:21.284 --> 00:50:22.744
MDMA therapies in
 
00:50:22.824 --> 00:50:24.144
psychedelic assisted
 
00:50:24.164 --> 00:50:25.666
therapies for certain people,
 
00:50:25.726 --> 00:50:26.365
not everybody.
 
00:50:26.746 --> 00:50:28.086
I love that you're doing the gut brain.
 
00:50:28.347 --> 00:50:29.467
That's so big.
 
00:50:30.108 --> 00:50:30.989
And I love to see all these
 
00:50:31.009 --> 00:50:33.250
different aspects for just
 
00:50:33.369 --> 00:50:35.391
using the nervous system tools.
 
00:50:35.451 --> 00:50:37.251
Like there's a lot of
 
00:50:37.532 --> 00:50:38.711
different types of
 
00:50:39.873 --> 00:50:41.072
technologies now that you
 
00:50:41.112 --> 00:50:42.554
can use to downregulate
 
00:50:42.673 --> 00:50:44.414
like PEMF therapy and
 
00:50:45.074 --> 00:50:46.916
And just so much red light therapy.
 
00:50:46.956 --> 00:50:47.317
Like you said,
 
00:50:47.336 --> 00:50:49.077
there's so many infrared heat,
 
00:50:49.137 --> 00:50:49.898
infrared saunas.
 
00:50:50.418 --> 00:50:52.300
It's, there's a lot.
 
00:50:52.340 --> 00:50:53.960
And I think that's why I
 
00:50:53.981 --> 00:50:54.961
would say to the audience
 
00:50:55.501 --> 00:50:58.724
to connect with Lucy and reprecision,
 
00:50:59.804 --> 00:51:00.764
reprecision health.
 
00:51:01.766 --> 00:51:04.067
It's because there's, there are so many.
 
00:51:04.487 --> 00:51:06.628
So when you're trying to
 
00:51:06.688 --> 00:51:08.050
research and you're already
 
00:51:08.130 --> 00:51:08.869
overstimulated,
 
00:51:09.050 --> 00:51:09.510
you're going to
 
00:51:09.550 --> 00:51:10.711
overstimulate yourself more.
 
00:51:11.512 --> 00:51:12.572
And you know,
 
00:51:13.362 --> 00:51:13.862
Definitely.
 
00:51:14.063 --> 00:51:14.282
Yes.
 
00:51:14.342 --> 00:51:15.043
And it's endless.
 
00:51:15.123 --> 00:51:17.447
And there's conflicting opinions.
 
00:51:17.628 --> 00:51:18.088
And I mean,
 
00:51:18.128 --> 00:51:20.050
we don't claim that everything
 
00:51:20.090 --> 00:51:21.652
we do is the way either.
 
00:51:21.693 --> 00:51:22.074
But yeah,
 
00:51:22.094 --> 00:51:23.135
we do provide a lot of free
 
00:51:23.195 --> 00:51:24.476
resources on our website,
 
00:51:24.516 --> 00:51:25.539
which hopefully are helpful
 
00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:27.161
just to get an idea of
 
00:51:27.240 --> 00:51:28.603
certain modalities that exist.
 
00:51:28.842 --> 00:51:29.704
can be helpful if it's
 
00:51:29.724 --> 00:51:30.565
possible to attend a
 
00:51:30.605 --> 00:51:32.206
program amazing we have an
 
00:51:32.306 --> 00:51:33.626
online program too which is
 
00:51:33.686 --> 00:51:34.668
much lower cost and
 
00:51:35.248 --> 00:51:36.469
accessible from anywhere
 
00:51:37.329 --> 00:51:40.172
but yeah I think also um
 
00:51:40.193 --> 00:51:41.134
going towards people who
 
00:51:41.173 --> 00:51:43.416
are more literate in in the
 
00:51:43.476 --> 00:51:44.657
nervous system um
 
00:51:45.974 --> 00:51:47.695
If your doctor isn't giving
 
00:51:47.735 --> 00:51:49.255
you the answers you want to hear,
 
00:51:49.295 --> 00:51:50.956
then there is an option to switch.
 
00:51:51.757 --> 00:51:52.978
Obviously, functional medicine,
 
00:51:53.038 --> 00:51:53.737
integrative medicine,
 
00:51:53.757 --> 00:51:54.958
they tend to have more options.
 
00:51:54.978 --> 00:51:56.280
They can also be more expensive.
 
00:51:57.000 --> 00:51:58.201
But if the option's there,
 
00:51:58.260 --> 00:52:00.942
then they're a bit more
 
00:52:00.961 --> 00:52:03.143
aware of these themes and
 
00:52:03.543 --> 00:52:04.903
can potentially do a better
 
00:52:04.943 --> 00:52:05.945
job of directing.
 
00:52:06.545 --> 00:52:07.405
But yeah,
 
00:52:07.525 --> 00:52:08.786
the great news is that a lot of
 
00:52:08.806 --> 00:52:09.568
this information is
 
00:52:09.608 --> 00:52:12.670
becoming freely available mainstream.
 
00:52:13.550 --> 00:52:14.351
There's some really great
 
00:52:14.411 --> 00:52:15.432
educators out there.
 
00:52:15.552 --> 00:52:17.335
So there's definitely options.
 
00:52:17.434 --> 00:52:21.338
And if any questions come our way,
 
00:52:21.358 --> 00:52:22.639
we're happy to answer them too.
 
00:52:22.759 --> 00:52:24.541
We can be helpful outside of our programs.
 
00:52:25.472 --> 00:52:26.313
We'll put all of your
 
00:52:26.333 --> 00:52:27.313
information as well in the
 
00:52:27.333 --> 00:52:28.474
show notes so people can
 
00:52:28.634 --> 00:52:29.974
have easy access links to
 
00:52:30.034 --> 00:52:31.715
your Absolute or contact
 
00:52:31.755 --> 00:52:33.157
you and get all those resources.
 
00:52:33.677 --> 00:52:35.958
So my last question, I'm kind of curious,
 
00:52:37.699 --> 00:52:39.239
if we were listening and we're like, okay,
 
00:52:39.300 --> 00:52:40.400
I'm definitely burned out
 
00:52:40.420 --> 00:52:41.742
or I'm moving into that space.
 
00:52:42.242 --> 00:52:43.583
Are there any simple,
 
00:52:43.922 --> 00:52:46.344
actionable burnout busters,
 
00:52:46.364 --> 00:52:46.945
if you want to say that
 
00:52:47.005 --> 00:52:48.706
employees or leaders can
 
00:52:48.746 --> 00:52:50.487
implement today that could
 
00:52:50.527 --> 00:52:51.266
help support their
 
00:52:51.286 --> 00:52:52.407
wellbeing and productivity?
 
00:52:53.880 --> 00:52:55.822
I wish there was like the
 
00:52:55.862 --> 00:52:56.943
pill or the gadget or
 
00:52:57.003 --> 00:52:59.166
something that just makes it disappear.
 
00:52:59.588 --> 00:53:01.849
But I think I alluded to it
 
00:53:01.891 --> 00:53:03.592
before that breath can be really,
 
00:53:03.632 --> 00:53:04.454
really powerful.
 
00:53:05.054 --> 00:53:06.637
And I love it because it's free,
 
00:53:06.817 --> 00:53:08.418
constantly accessible, like
 
00:53:08.813 --> 00:53:10.315
I would say almost everybody
 
00:53:10.335 --> 00:53:11.096
in the world can do it.
 
00:53:11.916 --> 00:53:14.177
And so the reason it's
 
00:53:14.237 --> 00:53:15.338
really impactful is because
 
00:53:15.358 --> 00:53:16.460
it's one of the few things
 
00:53:16.519 --> 00:53:18.141
that connects the conscious
 
00:53:18.181 --> 00:53:19.961
mind to the autonomic nervous system.
 
00:53:20.041 --> 00:53:22.103
So autonomic in the name,
 
00:53:22.164 --> 00:53:22.885
it means that it's just
 
00:53:22.965 --> 00:53:23.945
automatically happening in
 
00:53:23.985 --> 00:53:24.666
the background.
 
00:53:24.706 --> 00:53:26.788
So your heartbeat, your breath, you know,
 
00:53:26.867 --> 00:53:27.047
you know,
 
00:53:27.088 --> 00:53:28.608
a lot of your metabolic functions.
 
00:53:29.056 --> 00:53:29.775
They happen without you
 
00:53:29.797 --> 00:53:31.358
having to consciously think about them.
 
00:53:31.878 --> 00:53:32.637
But with the breath,
 
00:53:32.677 --> 00:53:34.018
we actually can control it.
 
00:53:34.579 --> 00:53:36.340
And what's cool is that the
 
00:53:36.501 --> 00:53:37.862
inhale is linked to the
 
00:53:37.902 --> 00:53:39.063
sympathetic branch and the
 
00:53:39.222 --> 00:53:40.262
exhale is linked to the
 
00:53:40.302 --> 00:53:41.403
parasympathetic branch.
 
00:53:41.503 --> 00:53:43.445
And sympathetics are our stress response,
 
00:53:43.465 --> 00:53:44.626
the activation response,
 
00:53:44.706 --> 00:53:47.108
and parasympathetic is our recovery,
 
00:53:47.148 --> 00:53:48.469
more down-regulated response.
 
00:53:49.009 --> 00:53:50.550
And so you've probably
 
00:53:50.590 --> 00:53:51.451
already done this without
 
00:53:51.530 --> 00:53:52.510
even realizing it,
 
00:53:52.711 --> 00:53:54.853
but often when we're just relaxing,
 
00:53:54.873 --> 00:53:56.353
we'll do that nice sigh, the
 
00:53:57.411 --> 00:53:57.851
you know,
 
00:53:57.931 --> 00:53:59.634
you're on the sun lounge or the sofa,
 
00:53:59.653 --> 00:54:01.235
you get into bed, you're like, ah,
 
00:54:02.195 --> 00:54:02.996
and then the opposite is
 
00:54:03.056 --> 00:54:04.496
true with the sympathetic.
 
00:54:04.516 --> 00:54:05.297
When we get a fright,
 
00:54:05.378 --> 00:54:07.239
the first thing we do is like gasp.
 
00:54:07.898 --> 00:54:09.360
And because we're ready, we're activated.
 
00:54:09.440 --> 00:54:10.641
So we can kind of simulate
 
00:54:10.681 --> 00:54:12.762
this to our advantage and
 
00:54:12.922 --> 00:54:14.643
just extend the exhale.
 
00:54:15.644 --> 00:54:16.545
So, so simple.
 
00:54:16.864 --> 00:54:18.106
And the thing is, it's just,
 
00:54:18.146 --> 00:54:18.786
the more you do it,
 
00:54:19.527 --> 00:54:21.789
it's just this constant cue
 
00:54:22.068 --> 00:54:23.570
to the body of safety.
 
00:54:24.230 --> 00:54:24.731
And it's,
 
00:54:25.521 --> 00:54:26.822
It's just amazing how much
 
00:54:27.123 --> 00:54:28.405
like this little thing can
 
00:54:28.425 --> 00:54:29.565
make such a big difference.
 
00:54:30.306 --> 00:54:32.329
And so I try to be very
 
00:54:32.429 --> 00:54:34.512
mindful of this and do it,
 
00:54:34.632 --> 00:54:35.693
especially before eating.
 
00:54:36.635 --> 00:54:37.155
Getting into the
 
00:54:37.195 --> 00:54:38.418
parasympathetic state is
 
00:54:38.478 --> 00:54:39.579
going to really help you
 
00:54:39.599 --> 00:54:41.501
digest and absorb your nutrients.
 
00:54:41.862 --> 00:54:42.282
So you're not
 
00:54:42.673 --> 00:54:43.414
running, you know,
 
00:54:43.655 --> 00:54:45.076
just grabbing your snack or
 
00:54:45.115 --> 00:54:47.257
at your desk or in the car, um,
 
00:54:47.438 --> 00:54:48.438
that you can just take
 
00:54:48.478 --> 00:54:49.099
those deep breaths.
 
00:54:49.159 --> 00:54:50.740
And it is easy.
 
00:54:50.760 --> 00:54:52.501
It's just inhaling for two
 
00:54:52.543 --> 00:54:53.943
counts and exhaling for
 
00:54:53.963 --> 00:54:55.224
around four counts.
 
00:54:55.784 --> 00:54:57.867
Um, you don't need to force it or anything,
 
00:54:57.907 --> 00:54:59.188
just like a slightly
 
00:54:59.648 --> 00:55:01.951
elongated exhale and being
 
00:55:01.990 --> 00:55:03.391
able to kind of like let go of it.
 
00:55:04.313 --> 00:55:04.552
And,
 
00:55:04.773 --> 00:55:06.393
and maybe also like thinking about like,
 
00:55:06.414 --> 00:55:08.175
you know, I'm safe, everything's okay.
 
00:55:08.447 --> 00:55:09.728
Even if it's a bit crazy,
 
00:55:09.748 --> 00:55:11.389
you could just be like, you know,
 
00:55:11.409 --> 00:55:12.849
I'm okay in this moment right now.
 
00:55:13.590 --> 00:55:14.190
I'm okay.
 
00:55:14.809 --> 00:55:15.851
And, um, you know,
 
00:55:15.871 --> 00:55:16.690
you can do that before you
 
00:55:16.731 --> 00:55:17.572
start your day.
 
00:55:17.612 --> 00:55:17.791
I mean,
 
00:55:17.871 --> 00:55:19.652
amazing right before you go to sleep.
 
00:55:19.952 --> 00:55:20.032
Um,
 
00:55:20.172 --> 00:55:21.733
a great time to do it is in the car in
 
00:55:21.773 --> 00:55:22.873
a traffic jam when you want
 
00:55:22.893 --> 00:55:24.454
to be really stressed and angry.
 
00:55:24.855 --> 00:55:26.135
Can you just like focus on
 
00:55:26.315 --> 00:55:27.317
exhaling when you're
 
00:55:27.356 --> 00:55:29.478
waiting in a line at the
 
00:55:29.498 --> 00:55:31.918
grocery store anyway?
 
00:55:32.753 --> 00:55:34.193
even more powerful if you're
 
00:55:34.313 --> 00:55:36.474
able to do it right before
 
00:55:36.494 --> 00:55:37.534
you feel like you're going to lose it.
 
00:55:37.594 --> 00:55:39.335
Getting to that like really
 
00:55:39.396 --> 00:55:40.275
stressed out point,
 
00:55:40.695 --> 00:55:41.456
you're having a really
 
00:55:41.476 --> 00:55:42.657
difficult conversation or
 
00:55:42.677 --> 00:55:43.376
like your kid's about to
 
00:55:43.396 --> 00:55:44.737
drive you crazy and you just,
 
00:55:45.217 --> 00:55:48.318
you can just exhale.
 
00:55:48.338 --> 00:55:48.898
It's amazing.
 
00:55:48.958 --> 00:55:50.659
It just like builds in that pause.
 
00:55:51.539 --> 00:55:52.378
It can shift you from
 
00:55:52.518 --> 00:55:54.260
reaction to response.
 
00:55:55.414 --> 00:55:57.097
And, and it's, it can just be really,
 
00:55:57.137 --> 00:55:57.960
really powerful.
 
00:55:58.641 --> 00:55:59.523
So yeah, I mean, that's,
 
00:55:59.983 --> 00:56:01.427
it's free and easy.
 
00:56:01.927 --> 00:56:03.590
It's just requires some
 
00:56:03.630 --> 00:56:04.873
mindfulness to keep doing it.
 
00:56:05.565 --> 00:56:05.925
Yeah.
 
00:56:06.005 --> 00:56:07.286
And it's definitely a practice.
 
00:56:07.327 --> 00:56:07.806
Like you said,
 
00:56:07.867 --> 00:56:09.467
my son is turning eighteen
 
00:56:10.148 --> 00:56:11.427
and I'm always reminding him,
 
00:56:11.467 --> 00:56:12.748
just breathe, just breathe.
 
00:56:12.849 --> 00:56:14.090
I have a friend who has a
 
00:56:14.170 --> 00:56:16.690
daughter who's she's lower
 
00:56:16.731 --> 00:56:18.311
functioning autism spectrum
 
00:56:18.791 --> 00:56:20.612
and he's taught her that, you know,
 
00:56:20.652 --> 00:56:22.992
just take a breath and he does it.
 
00:56:23.193 --> 00:56:26.114
She goes and she's so cute
 
00:56:26.134 --> 00:56:26.655
when she does it.
 
00:56:26.675 --> 00:56:27.954
And I go to my son, I say,
 
00:56:28.034 --> 00:56:30.275
if she can do this and she's six,
 
00:56:30.735 --> 00:56:32.476
I want to see you start practicing it.
 
00:56:32.536 --> 00:56:33.217
Look how much.
 
00:56:33.257 --> 00:56:33.958
And he goes, OK.
 
00:56:35.759 --> 00:56:36.838
Because it really does.
 
00:56:36.918 --> 00:56:38.559
And I think there,
 
00:56:38.659 --> 00:56:40.420
I think for those who might
 
00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:41.722
be in that overdrive,
 
00:56:42.302 --> 00:56:44.103
I think that that may seem too simple.
 
00:56:44.483 --> 00:56:45.483
The brain does not want to
 
00:56:45.543 --> 00:56:46.764
accept the simplicity,
 
00:56:47.704 --> 00:56:49.224
but it really does.
 
00:56:50.005 --> 00:56:50.346
Yeah.
 
00:56:50.385 --> 00:56:51.666
It's not a fancy gadget.
 
00:56:51.726 --> 00:56:52.746
And the other thing is I
 
00:56:52.766 --> 00:56:54.547
think often we look for passive things.
 
00:56:54.568 --> 00:56:54.688
Yeah.
 
00:56:54.708 --> 00:56:55.628
I'll just take the pill or
 
00:56:55.648 --> 00:56:56.789
I'll just put the thing on my head.
 
00:56:56.869 --> 00:56:59.371
Obviously it's active.
 
00:56:59.530 --> 00:57:00.791
Active participation is
 
00:57:00.891 --> 00:57:01.731
usually more effective.
 
00:57:01.751 --> 00:57:01.831
Yeah.
 
00:57:02.297 --> 00:57:02.458
Well,
 
00:57:02.478 --> 00:57:03.840
I have two final questions for you
 
00:57:03.880 --> 00:57:04.701
that we ask everyone who
 
00:57:04.740 --> 00:57:06.103
comes on the show for the first time.
 
00:57:07.304 --> 00:57:08.527
Our first question is,
 
00:57:09.027 --> 00:57:11.289
what is your current favorite product,
 
00:57:11.451 --> 00:57:13.773
wellness topic or self-care
 
00:57:13.853 --> 00:57:15.215
indulgence at this time?
 
00:57:16.836 --> 00:57:17.858
Good question.
 
00:57:18.077 --> 00:57:20.860
I have a lot of them, a lot of things.
 
00:57:20.940 --> 00:57:21.641
I love focusing on them,
 
00:57:21.721 --> 00:57:22.782
but something I've been
 
00:57:22.822 --> 00:57:24.563
really enjoying lately is
 
00:57:24.663 --> 00:57:25.824
actually a balance board,
 
00:57:26.505 --> 00:57:27.585
which I have next to me.
 
00:57:28.166 --> 00:57:30.286
And it's so amazing because it's like,
 
00:57:31.188 --> 00:57:32.389
so proprioception is when
 
00:57:32.409 --> 00:57:33.449
your body knows like where
 
00:57:33.469 --> 00:57:34.791
your limbs are in space.
 
00:57:35.311 --> 00:57:36.271
And so something like a
 
00:57:36.311 --> 00:57:37.811
balance board is amazing
 
00:57:38.092 --> 00:57:39.934
for your brain because
 
00:57:39.954 --> 00:57:41.974
you're going in all directions.
 
00:57:42.215 --> 00:57:45.135
And it's also working so
 
00:57:45.155 --> 00:57:46.157
many different muscles,
 
00:57:46.217 --> 00:57:47.637
like your abs and glutes
 
00:57:47.677 --> 00:57:48.318
and all your legs.
 
00:57:48.657 --> 00:57:49.338
So it's such a great thing
 
00:57:49.358 --> 00:57:51.639
to do after sitting on the computer,
 
00:57:51.659 --> 00:57:51.960
working.
 
00:57:52.039 --> 00:57:53.041
And it's also fun.
 
00:57:53.240 --> 00:57:55.061
It's not just like,
 
00:57:55.081 --> 00:57:56.141
I'll just go walk on a treadmill.
 
00:57:56.161 --> 00:57:57.382
It's really fun to try and
 
00:57:57.402 --> 00:57:58.884
keep balancing on it.
 
00:57:58.903 --> 00:58:00.545
So it's something I've been enjoying.
 
00:58:01.085 --> 00:58:02.246
And it was actually one of
 
00:58:02.286 --> 00:58:03.945
our staff members who's a
 
00:58:04.027 --> 00:58:05.387
skim boarder who brought
 
00:58:05.507 --> 00:58:06.788
one to our property.
 
00:58:06.907 --> 00:58:08.068
And that's why I started and
 
00:58:08.108 --> 00:58:08.889
now I have my own,
 
00:58:09.509 --> 00:58:10.710
because it was such a great
 
00:58:10.909 --> 00:58:12.309
little exercise to go and do.
 
00:58:12.449 --> 00:58:14.550
So highly recommend the balance board.
 
00:58:15.692 --> 00:58:18.213
And yeah, outside, there's all sorts.
 
00:58:18.273 --> 00:58:18.552
I mean,
 
00:58:18.652 --> 00:58:21.054
I feel like it's like my favorite
 
00:58:21.074 --> 00:58:21.934
thing in the world is all
 
00:58:21.954 --> 00:58:22.894
of the things you just said,
 
00:58:23.255 --> 00:58:25.416
looking into all these different options.
 
00:58:25.476 --> 00:58:25.896
Wonderful.
 
00:58:26.556 --> 00:58:27.920
Now, the final question I have for you,
 
00:58:27.960 --> 00:58:28.360
Lucy,
 
00:58:28.501 --> 00:58:30.666
is if you could detox one thing in
 
00:58:30.686 --> 00:58:32.811
your life or the world right now,
 
00:58:32.831 --> 00:58:33.413
what would it be?
 
00:58:34.487 --> 00:58:35.469
I think there's many things
 
00:58:35.489 --> 00:58:36.469
that could be detoxed.
 
00:58:37.230 --> 00:58:39.190
Something that really caught my attention,
 
00:58:39.210 --> 00:58:39.331
I mean,
 
00:58:39.391 --> 00:58:41.032
it's been in my attention for a long time,
 
00:58:41.072 --> 00:58:42.512
but it was peaked lately,
 
00:58:42.793 --> 00:58:44.333
is microplastics.
 
00:58:45.275 --> 00:58:45.795
I mean,
 
00:58:45.894 --> 00:58:48.876
it's a bit doomy and gloomy looking
 
00:58:48.956 --> 00:58:49.418
into it,
 
00:58:49.538 --> 00:58:51.938
but there's some pretty intense
 
00:58:51.978 --> 00:58:53.019
new studies out of just
 
00:58:53.099 --> 00:58:54.800
where we're finding these plastics.
 
00:58:54.820 --> 00:58:55.001
I mean,
 
00:58:55.041 --> 00:58:56.983
we already knew from placenta to
 
00:58:57.003 --> 00:58:58.824
the Arctic, they're just everywhere.
 
00:58:59.304 --> 00:59:00.465
But I've been doing a lot of,
 
00:59:00.644 --> 00:59:01.927
because of personal reasons
 
00:59:01.947 --> 00:59:03.487
of my family research into
 
00:59:03.527 --> 00:59:05.891
dementia and just looking
 
00:59:05.911 --> 00:59:07.012
at how plastics
 
00:59:07.032 --> 00:59:08.213
accumulating in the brain
 
00:59:08.233 --> 00:59:09.514
can affect that.
 
00:59:09.574 --> 00:59:11.115
And there's much higher
 
00:59:11.175 --> 00:59:12.257
likelihood of dementia.
 
00:59:12.336 --> 00:59:12.637
And so.
 
00:59:13.257 --> 00:59:13.496
Yeah,
 
00:59:13.516 --> 00:59:15.259
looking into these different tools to
 
00:59:15.539 --> 00:59:16.039
detox,
 
00:59:16.099 --> 00:59:17.860
it's something that's quite hard to detox,
 
00:59:17.920 --> 00:59:18.922
but obviously the more we
 
00:59:18.961 --> 00:59:20.364
can improve our
 
00:59:20.384 --> 00:59:21.945
detoxification pathways and
 
00:59:22.344 --> 00:59:23.726
reduce exposure to them.
 
00:59:25.068 --> 00:59:27.210
Yeah, that's been a big focus.
 
00:59:27.250 --> 00:59:29.672
So I would love to detox the
 
00:59:29.692 --> 00:59:31.594
whole planet of microplastics if I could.
 
00:59:32.289 --> 00:59:33.670
I love that you just said that.
 
00:59:33.849 --> 00:59:34.750
That's actually where my
 
00:59:34.811 --> 00:59:36.130
focus is for recently.
 
00:59:36.170 --> 00:59:37.610
It's so funny because I
 
00:59:37.650 --> 00:59:39.550
started a couple supplements for,
 
00:59:40.391 --> 00:59:41.331
and other protocols for it,
 
00:59:41.351 --> 00:59:42.512
but because I still
 
00:59:42.532 --> 00:59:43.931
struggle with estrogen
 
00:59:44.052 --> 00:59:48.233
issues and plastics can really, you know,
 
00:59:48.253 --> 00:59:49.733
they can influence.
 
00:59:50.373 --> 00:59:50.614
Yeah.
 
00:59:51.034 --> 00:59:54.333
So like I was still struggling with like,
 
00:59:54.634 --> 00:59:56.054
as almost a forty-year-old woman now,
 
00:59:56.175 --> 00:59:57.655
I'm still struggling with acne.
 
00:59:58.315 --> 00:59:59.755
And I, I know that, you know,
 
00:59:59.815 --> 01:00:01.297
my journey is, um, I have a,
 
01:00:01.356 --> 01:00:02.478
I have the genetic mutation
 
01:00:02.498 --> 01:00:03.898
that affects my detox pathways.
 
01:00:03.978 --> 01:00:07.059
So it's even more important for, for that.
 
01:00:07.119 --> 01:00:10.262
So, um, yeah, it's a lot of cool stuff,
 
01:00:10.322 --> 01:00:11.882
but it is, um,
 
01:00:11.902 --> 01:00:13.164
there's always so much more to learn.
 
01:00:13.204 --> 01:00:13.463
Right.
 
01:00:13.643 --> 01:00:17.666
And I think that if we have our main focus,
 
01:00:17.726 --> 01:00:18.567
our main purpose and what
 
01:00:18.586 --> 01:00:19.367
we're doing here in the world,
 
01:00:19.387 --> 01:00:20.407
and we can focus on what it
 
01:00:20.447 --> 01:00:21.427
is that we want to release
 
01:00:21.467 --> 01:00:23.009
and continue to release, whatever that is,
 
01:00:23.048 --> 01:00:24.510
whether it's mental, physical, um,
 
01:00:24.769 --> 01:00:26.773
chemical um that's that's
 
01:00:26.813 --> 01:00:27.693
our journey that's part of
 
01:00:28.454 --> 01:00:29.898
the the the the create and
 
01:00:30.018 --> 01:00:31.519
dissolve create and release
 
01:00:31.619 --> 01:00:35.065
surrender in this path of life so yeah
 
01:00:35.358 --> 01:00:36.480
And just remembering how
 
01:00:36.679 --> 01:00:38.481
impactful our thoughts are around it.
 
01:00:39.121 --> 01:00:40.240
There was a cool study I'll
 
01:00:40.262 --> 01:00:41.882
have to find of just how
 
01:00:43.083 --> 01:00:44.483
the placebo effect or
 
01:00:44.543 --> 01:00:45.443
nocebo effect could
 
01:00:45.503 --> 01:00:47.985
actually be more stronger
 
01:00:48.045 --> 01:00:49.806
than genetic mutations.
 
01:00:50.266 --> 01:00:52.047
So also trying not to live
 
01:00:52.086 --> 01:00:52.987
in this state of fear.
 
01:00:53.068 --> 01:00:53.827
I'm reading all of these
 
01:00:53.867 --> 01:00:54.949
crazy statistics and
 
01:00:54.989 --> 01:00:56.309
studies around microplastics.
 
01:00:56.349 --> 01:00:57.150
I'm like, oh my God,
 
01:00:57.250 --> 01:00:57.889
I don't want to breathe.
 
01:00:57.949 --> 01:00:59.570
I don't want to be around dust.
 
01:00:59.670 --> 01:01:01.152
I don't want to eat anything
 
01:01:01.172 --> 01:01:01.771
out of plastic.
 
01:01:02.112 --> 01:01:04.414
But also remembering just how much our
 
01:01:05.153 --> 01:01:06.375
thoughts then influence
 
01:01:06.574 --> 01:01:07.596
everything in our body.
 
01:01:08.117 --> 01:01:09.257
And yeah,
 
01:01:09.338 --> 01:01:10.818
living in a fear state is just
 
01:01:10.878 --> 01:01:11.980
going to add to your stress
 
01:01:12.059 --> 01:01:13.400
and the nervous system
 
01:01:13.420 --> 01:01:15.043
dysregulation and affect
 
01:01:15.103 --> 01:01:16.563
all of your detoxification
 
01:01:16.583 --> 01:01:17.644
pathways even more.
 
01:01:17.824 --> 01:01:18.326
Oh my gosh.
 
01:01:18.365 --> 01:01:18.545
Yeah.
 
01:01:18.686 --> 01:01:21.387
And we have a neuroscientist
 
01:01:21.427 --> 01:01:22.028
that's coming up
 
01:01:22.489 --> 01:01:23.769
on the show for some
 
01:01:23.829 --> 01:01:25.512
episodes here so that will
 
01:01:25.532 --> 01:01:26.893
be also talked about for
 
01:01:26.952 --> 01:01:27.773
everybody to go into
 
01:01:27.793 --> 01:01:28.715
because that's so important
 
01:01:28.755 --> 01:01:29.775
people do dive in on this
 
01:01:29.835 --> 01:01:30.835
rabbit hole and go oh my
 
01:01:30.876 --> 01:01:32.237
gosh everything's toxic
 
01:01:35.179 --> 01:01:36.882
it's okay it's fine just
 
01:01:36.942 --> 01:01:38.023
relax you know it's really
 
01:01:38.043 --> 01:01:39.923
going to be fine so yeah
 
01:01:39.963 --> 01:01:40.804
well is there anything else
 
01:01:40.824 --> 01:01:41.905
you want to share with us
 
01:01:42.126 --> 01:01:43.146
that we as far as
 
01:01:43.166 --> 01:01:44.929
information for what you're
 
01:01:44.949 --> 01:01:46.469
up to in your organization right now
 
01:01:47.958 --> 01:01:49.300
I think we covered quite a lot.
 
01:01:49.340 --> 01:01:49.920
I mean,
 
01:01:49.940 --> 01:01:51.000
we've always got more exciting
 
01:01:51.039 --> 01:01:52.081
projects coming.
 
01:01:52.181 --> 01:01:53.201
A big deep dive in the
 
01:01:53.240 --> 01:01:54.161
future is actually going to
 
01:01:54.181 --> 01:01:55.161
be into dementia.
 
01:01:55.282 --> 01:01:56.402
I kind of alluded to that.
 
01:01:57.342 --> 01:01:59.284
And we have our foundation too.
 
01:01:59.304 --> 01:02:00.184
We've been working with
 
01:02:00.224 --> 01:02:02.144
frontline workers to
 
01:02:02.184 --> 01:02:03.465
provide scholarships and
 
01:02:03.505 --> 01:02:05.085
free programs as much as we can.
 
01:02:05.945 --> 01:02:06.967
So we actually do have some
 
01:02:07.007 --> 01:02:08.547
offers coming up in October
 
01:02:08.606 --> 01:02:09.887
for frontline workers.
 
01:02:10.987 --> 01:02:11.967
We try to give away as many
 
01:02:12.007 --> 01:02:13.429
programs as possible.
 
01:02:14.108 --> 01:02:15.489
And yeah, we'll...
 
01:02:16.190 --> 01:02:17.132
put all of our news and
 
01:02:17.172 --> 01:02:18.215
updates on the website.
 
01:02:18.356 --> 01:02:19.318
And like I mentioned,
 
01:02:19.338 --> 01:02:20.262
there's some resources on
 
01:02:20.282 --> 01:02:21.264
there that might be helpful
 
01:02:21.304 --> 01:02:21.965
for the listeners.
 
01:02:22.641 --> 01:02:23.222
Awesome.
 
01:02:23.262 --> 01:02:24.402
Thank you so much, Lucy,
 
01:02:24.443 --> 01:02:25.523
for the work you're doing.
 
01:02:25.682 --> 01:02:26.963
And again, all of you,
 
01:02:27.543 --> 01:02:30.206
this information is valuable.
 
01:02:30.585 --> 01:02:32.005
You will see how it
 
01:02:32.045 --> 01:02:33.387
infiltrates everything.
 
01:02:33.407 --> 01:02:35.507
Your nervous system is so needed.
 
01:02:35.947 --> 01:02:37.168
It just wants your love.
 
01:02:37.228 --> 01:02:38.588
It wants to feel safe.
 
01:02:39.170 --> 01:02:41.030
And there are many ways to do it.
 
01:02:41.070 --> 01:02:42.891
So reach out to us if you
 
01:02:42.911 --> 01:02:44.192
have questions about this episode.
 
01:02:44.211 --> 01:02:45.072
Reach out to Lucy,
 
01:02:45.112 --> 01:02:46.432
connect with her on the
 
01:02:46.472 --> 01:02:48.034
socials and through the website.
 
01:02:48.193 --> 01:02:50.454
And again, we appreciate you being here.
 
01:02:51.576 --> 01:02:52.376
Oh, lovely to be here.
 
01:02:52.416 --> 01:02:53.878
Thanks so much.
 
01:02:54.039 --> 01:02:54.820
All right, everybody.
 
01:02:55.822 --> 01:02:58.106
Be well until next time, my friends.
 
01:02:58.306 --> 01:02:58.867
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01:03:00.407 --> 01:03:01.827
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